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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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How many other Americans have donated $50 or more to the campaigns of one of the candidates running for president? It would seem to be the year to throw your hat in the ring, or put your money where your mouth is.
Oh, I'm a Canadian of course, but Ron Paul didn't cancel my donation made via Visa card, with a Canadian mailing address. |
When you donate to the Ron Paul campaign you are required to fill out a form where you guarantee that you are an American citizen donating personal and not corporate or other business funds. Since many Americans live all over the world and continue to participate in the electoral process, the Canadian address was meaningless. The Ron Paul campaign received hundreds of thousands of donations and acted properly. YOU should NOT have donated. By making the donation, you violated the law. The Ron Paul campaign complied with the law. |
Nope. Never had to fill out such a form. I would never pretend to be American. I actually enjoyed the fact that they would know that a Canadian was concerned enough about U.S. actions to try and take part in the process.
BTW, what about all these Chinese, Israeli, British etc. fundraising events that take place? |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Here is the required donation checkoff on the Ron Paul donation site. Perhaps you clicked on the box without reading it. Your donation will not go through unless you fill out the required items, including your check guaranteeing the following:
6. Confirm Your Eligibility
Federal law requires all online contributors to confirm that the following statements are true and accurate. If you cannot confirm each statement, you are not eligible to contribute to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee.
1. This contribution is made on a personal credit or debit card for which I have the legal obligation to pay, and is made neither on a corporate or business entity card nor on the card of another.
2. I am a United States citizen or a lawfully-admitted permanent resident.
3. I am making this contribution with my own personal funds, and I will not be reimbursed by anyone for this contribution.
4. I am not a federal government contractor.
5. I am at least 18 years of age.
* By checking this box, I confirm that each of the above statements is true and accurate.
Sending donation... Please wait for confirmation. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| oh well! honestly though, what's to stop anyone from doing what I did? Any consequences other than possibly a guilty conscience? (not in my case though). |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Ron Paul's #1 priority is getting out of Iraq. He thinks Barack Obama would be the quickest of the three in getting out of Iraq. What's so hard to understand there? |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: |
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But he's a Republican! At least, he says he is!
I heard they were all bound by some loyalty oath to only support Republicans. It made the news cycle some years ago.
Yes I know he's not the 'typical white Republican' so maybe he didn't get the memo.
UPDATE: While I was typing this, I was reading the Huffington Post, so I am beginning to see why Ron Paul would support Obama's foreign policy positions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/what-john-mccain-told-me_b_100183.html
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| McCain: I didn't vote for George Bush |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| agentX wrote: |
But he's a Republican! At least, he says he is!
I heard they were all bound by some loyalty oath to only support Republicans. It made the news cycle some years ago.
Yes I know he's not the 'typical white Republican' so maybe he didn't get the memo. |
That's actually quite common, people seeing the label Republican and thinking Ron Paul stands for something or another (usually traditionally non-Republican ideas like big government and tons of foreign intervention). I think you'd do well to listen to one of his speeches. Here's my favourite:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hKVvgyIEqbQ
Seriously, watch the whole speech. You don't have to like him but if you were under the impression that he supported McCain that means you have a lot to learn about him. Even if you prefer the Democratic Party (nothing wrong with that) I still suspect you'd prefer that the GOP be more like Ron Paul and less like Bush and McCain and the rest. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Ron Paul winning, one Congressional District at a time:
Ron Paul supporters William (B.J.) Lawson and Walter Jones both won primary victories in North Carolina on May 6. Lawson received 70% of the Republican vote in the 4th Congressional District (CD-4), while Jones took 60% in CD-3. RPR site RonPaul.com reports that both "were endorsed by Ron Paul." (1)
Lawson, a medical doctor turned entrepreneur, is making his first run for political office. He introduced Ron Paul at Paul's presidential campaign rally this month in Durham, which is in CD-4. (2)
Otherwise Lawson did not stress his connection to Paul. His opponent, Rev. Augustus Cho, did that for him, calling him "a Ron Paul Libertarian, 100%! Go to his webpage, and everything he stands for is right there! I call him Ron Paul Jr. because that's what he is." (3) (Lawson's later response: "No, I'm a Ron Paul Republican.")
Lawson now goes up against David Price, CD-4's 10-term Democratic incumbent.
In CD-3, Walter Jones is the incumbent. Formerly a Democrat, he switched to Republican and won the seat in 1994 as part of the "Contract With America" campaign. Sometimes called a liberal due to his political past and his post-2005 opposition to the Iraq War, Jones in fact enjoys an American Conservative Union lifetime rating of 92. Newt Gingrich also endorsed him in the primary.
Jones is a member of the congressional Liberty Caucus. According to Wikipedia, he "endorsed Ron Paul in the 2008 race for president of the United States." |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: |
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What the hell?? Ron Paul and his supporters are gonna overturn the GOP's pick John McCain?
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Top of the Ticket
Ron Paul's forces quietly plot GOP convention revolt against McCain
Virtually all the nation's political attention in recent weeks has focused on the compelling state-by-state presidential nomination struggle between two Democrats and the potential for party-splitting strife over there.
But in the meantime,Texas Rep. Ron Paul and his libertarian-minded GOP backers are collecting delegates at the local level and planning a revolt against Sen. John McCain at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul in September quietly, largely under the radar of most people, the forces of Rep. Ron Paul have been organizing across the country to stage an embarrassing public revolt against Sen. John McCain when Republicans gather for their national convention in Minnesota at the beginning of September.
Paul's presidential candidacy has been correctly dismissed all along in terms of winning the nomination. He was even excluded as irrelevant by Fox News from a nationally-televised GOP debate in New Hampshire.
But what's been largely overlooked is Paul's candidacy as a reflection of a powerful lingering dissatisfaction with the Arizona senator among the party's most conservative conservatives. As anticipated in late March in The Ticket, that situation could be exacerbated by today's expected announcement from former Republican Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia for the Libertarian Party's presidential nod, a slot held by Paul in 1988.
Never mind Ralph Nader, Republican and Democratic parties both face ...
... potentially damaging internal splits that could cripple their chances for victory in a narrow vote on Nov. 4.
Just take a look at recent Republican primary results, largely overlooked because McCain locked up the necessary 1,191 delegates long ago. In Indiana, McCain got 77% of the recent Republican primary vote, Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney, who've each long ago quit and endorsed McCain, still got 10% and 5% respectively, while Paul took 8%.
On the same May 6 in North Carolina, McCain received less than three-quarters of Republican votes (74%), while Huckabee got 12%, Paul 7% and Alan Keyes and No Preference took a total of 7%.
Pennsylvania was even slightly worse for the GOP's presumptive nominee, who got only 73% to a combined 27% for Paul (16%) and Huckabee (11%).
As Politico.com's Jonathan Martin noted recently, at least some of these results are temporary protest votes in meaningless primaries built on lingering affection for Huckabee and suspicion of McCain.
Given the long-since settled GOP race, thousands of other Republicans in these states, who might have put up with a McCain vote, crossed over to vote in the more exciting Democratic primaries, on their own for Sen. Barack Obama or at the urging of talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, who sought to support Hillary Clinton and prolong Democratic bloodletting.
According to a recent Boston Globe tally, Paul has a grand total of 19 Republican delegates to Romney's 260, Huckabee's 286 and McCain's 1,413.
In the last three months, Paul's forces, who donated $34.5 million to his White House effort and upward of a million total votes, have, as The Ticket has noted, been fighting a series of guerrilla battles with party establishment officials at county and state conventions from Washington and Missouri to Maine and Mississippi. Their goal: to take control of local committees, boost their delegate totals and influence platform debates.
Paul, for instance, favors a drastically reduced federal government, abolishing the Federal Reserve, ending the Iraq war immediately and withdrawing U.S. troops from abroad. Nobody told these supporters of Texas Rep. and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul that the French can't vote in American elections.
They hope to demonstrate their disagreements with McCain vocally at the convention through platform fights and an attempt to get Paul a prominent speaking slot. Paul, who's running unopposed in his home Texas district for an 11th House term, still has some $5 million in war funds and has instructed his followers that their struggle is not about a single election, but a long-term revolution for control of the Republican Party.
So eager are they to follow their leader's words, that Paul's supporters have driven his new book, "The Revolution: A Manifesto," to the top of several bestseller lists.
While Paul has consistently refused a third-party bid, he has vowed not to endorse McCain, a refusal mirrored by hundreds of his supporters who have left comments on The Ticket in recent weeks. And, no doubt, they'll flock back here today to spread the gospel below.
-- Andrew Malcolm |
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/ronpaulgop.html
I don't know how far with this he can go. McCain already has the number of delegates he needs. Yeah OK, they can get him to speak at the convention, but look at who they are talking to; these aren't Ron Paul voters: they are the crowd who have sex in the airport bathroom (in the same city their convention is hosted in), the crowd which sold its soul to Big Business and the Saudis, the crowd of bad ideas and dumb candidates, the crowd of bigots and child molesters, the crowd of Rush Limbaugh dittoheads, the crowd of Reich-wingers and Christianofascists who want to start another war, this time against a country with backup in order to trigger the Apocalypse and Armaggedon so God will take them away before their homosexual urges overtake them and their mortgages default and other stuff like that. And Ron Paul supporters WANT to talk to them? Shit, they're better off trying to isolate them in some prison colony off the coast of India, a la No Escape.
If I were a Ron Paul supporter, I would be more focused on throwing the 'wackos' out of the party and maybe even out of the country. Guantanamo Bay seems to be emptying these days; why not such a place for the Michelle Malkins, the Karl Roves, the Tom Colburns, and the Tom Delays.
The party is really weak right now, running around aimlessly, throwing anything against opponents and none of it sticks, running out of money and running into men's bathrooms, stuck to the sinking ship of Bush Co. Shoot, why go for the speech, Ron Paul? Go for the jugular! You can rip McCain right off the ticket! Yeah, it's probably not democratic to toss the people's choice off the ticket, but hey, you're a Republican. Democracy isn't your party's strong suit. Nonetheless it should prove amusing, watching Ron Paul and his supporters fluster the drunken and dejected GOP crowd, and watch Old Man McBush get circles run around him and watch him then go apeshit on national TV, thus killing his own electability.
Heck, if RP and his supporters plan on doing just that, I might be tempted to pitch in some of that "Stimulus Package" to this 'Operation Chaos'. |
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greedy_bones
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: |
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This video shows a FAILED attempt by a phony interviewer to get Ron Paul to say that he supports a group that he never heard of.
Dr. Paul repeated twice that he never heard of the phony group. He then talked about the issue.
There is, of course, a real NAMBLA, and it is NOT the "National Advocates for More Ballistics, Less Administration" as claimed by the interviewer.
The interviewer failed and Dr. Paul made him look like a dufus. It's a surprise that he posted the interview. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| The interviewer failed and Dr. Paul made him look like a dufus. It's a surprise that he posted the interview. |
Yeah, that was really lame. The only punch line ended up being the wannabe comedian repeating variations on "Glad you support NAMBLA" after Ron Paul failed to take the bait. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| The interviewer failed and Dr. Paul made him look like a dufus. It's a surprise that he posted the interview. |
Yeah, that was really lame. The only punch line ended up being the wannabe comedian repeating variations on "Glad you support NAMBLA" after Ron Paul failed to take the bait. |
It reminded me of the first practical joke my little brother (12 years younger than me) played on me when he was about five.
(I just got home)
Him: There was a phone call for you.
Me: Really?
Him: No! I tricked you! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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What I don't know how far with this he can go. McCain already has the number of delegates he needs. Yeah OK, they can get him to speak at the convention, but look at who they are talking to; these aren't Ron Paul voters: [/b]they are the crowd who have sex in the airport bathroom (in the same city their convention is hosted in), the crowd which sold its soul to Big Business and the Saudis, the crowd of bad ideas and dumb candidates, the crowd of bigots and child molesters, the crowd of Rush Limbaugh dittoheads, the crowd of Reich-wingers and Christianofascists who want to start another war, this time against a country with backup in order to trigger the Apocalypse and Armaggedon so God will take them away before their homosexual urges overtake them and their mortgages default and other stuff like that.[/b]
And Ron Paul supporters WANT to talk to them? Shit, they're better off trying to isolate them in some prison colony off the coast of India, a la No Escape.
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Then Ron Paul supporters should fit right in as a large proportion seem to be right wing racists and bigots. Nobody here at Dave's of course, I am thinking more of the general population at large.
Look at the groups who support him. Groups like Storm Front and the American Nationalist Union. And people like David Duke. Other prominent Neo-Nazis have also come out in support. And when Ron Paul was asked if he would repudiate such support and return donations from these people and groups, he has either refused to reply or waffled on the issue.
Perhaps you should define "Ron Paul supporters" a bit more carefully, as regardless of what views you have on the above groups and people, they ARE Ron Paul supporters.
http://americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.html |
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Pligganease
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Location: The deep south...
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That is quite possibly the weakest thing I have ever seen.
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