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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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So what makes being an American so great?
I am here and I just think of the place as just another third-world country. |
WTF is a third-world country?
The cold war is over.
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| Maybe when we become subjects of the republic (sorry democracy now) of the USA we can share in some of that booming economy of yours too. I mean WOW. I can't tell you how much I want all of the perks of being a citizen of The United States of America. |
The entire world is in a recession. It amazes me that any Canadians think that they're insulated from this shit. Or I suppose it doesn't. Kind of figures that your education system would be as bad as ours. Given that there's:
NO SUBSTANTIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES
No, health care does not count.
God, you off-topic people need to stop drooling all over yourselves and up your game. |
So then, what possible benefit is there to losing our national identity and becoming Americans? I would say an 11% difference in education quality and having a higher ranked health care system is a substantive difference. And for the record I know Canada isn't insulated from the GLOBAL recession. What I meant was the US economy is going to shit (Canada is still stronger right now). I'm not God, but I appreciate the complement. I'm not so naive as to think Canada is bulletproof. I would think that if you're going to poke holes in my logic you'd have made a case for the measurement system... but I suppose that counts cause it's more important to have a standard for measuring how big the dick is that's up your ass than to have a decent standard of living even for those who are too poor to afford to get treatment.
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| Why doesn't Canada petition the USA to become 51st state?I mean after all, why put up with all of this humiliation from this guy Steven Harper, and this lady, "the queen?" Become the 51st star on Old Glory! Dont let Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, or the Philippines beat you to it! I mean, after all, you would stand at least a fair chance of being accepted for statehood, don't you think? |
There's people who don't care one way or the other but there are people who do care too. I would say that for the most part Canadians to not want to become American citizens. If they did it's very easy for a Canadian to immigrate to the US. Why the question was raised in the first place is absurd. As for "the queen", she is The Queen. That is her title. If you say "the queen" you make it seem like it's someone in drag. I'm sure you could debate that... but until it's proven she IS The Queen of England. Mr.Harper can suck on it. His policies were very Americanesque when it came to the economy and health care. He promised to work with the other parties and then said,"screw you guys I'm going home". The PM may be the head of the government but the opposition is in charge of keeping him in check. It was them that cast the no confidence vote. The Queen didn't have a say in the matter. |
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Louie
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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For me, the true question would be: Why ask such a large nation like Canada to join the union when even a tiny island like Puerto Rico refuses to join?
It is a part of a commonwealth where they enjoy the benefits that Americans have (Social Security, having an American passport and free travel to and from the US), but they have a non-voting member in the House of Representatives.....
I bet many Americans here are completely oblivious to the fact that Puerto Rican nationalists were the first in the union to ever storm the Capitol and lay seige for several hours, shooting up the Senate floor wounding several senators before being overrun by the Secret Service.
The question was even asked when the US occupied Cuba, Haiti, the Philippines, Panama (after the creation of the Panama Canal and its struggle against Columbia) and even Mexico in the wake of the American-Mexican War and the occupation of Central America by American mercenaries led by William Walker (pre-suceding South states even wanted to experiment with slavery there on a mass, government sanctions scale)........yet it was answered by revolts and insurgencies, many of which were brutally put down by the American expeditionary forces sent to those places....... |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Louie wrote: |
| For me, the true question would be: Why ask such a large nation like Canada to join the union when even a tiny island like Puerto Rico refuses to join?. |
Well, that would be an equally retarded question which, like the OP, would be posed not to elicit an actual honest answer to a question but to provide a medium for the questioner to spout off.
The purpose of this thread was to get pissy Canadians to get their maple leaf panties in a bunch. It worked. Louie, you fell for it. Canadians are obnoxious. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| You are coming to this realization now? |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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The most obnoxious thing is that they have a Queen of Canada.
Long live the Monarchy! |
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Louie
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| The purpose of this thread was to get pissy Canadians to get their maple leaf panties in a bunch. It worked. Louie, you fell for it. Canadians are obnoxious. |
I'm Canadian?? |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Louie wrote: |
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| The purpose of this thread was to get pissy Canadians to get their maple leaf panties in a bunch. It worked. Louie, you fell for it. Canadians are obnoxious. |
I'm Canadian?? |
You can't be your not obnoxious! |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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catman
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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What hasn't this troll initiated thread been locked already?  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Another will replace it shortly. Things move in circles on the internet.
Already there is a thread on the North American Union, which is fodder for nutty Americans and Canadians. This thread was only really fodder for Canoooks.
Anyways. In the reality based world, Canada will remain a sovereign nation that is at the same time interconnected economically, financially and culturally with the behemoth to her south. It is what it is. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
Another will replace it shortly. Things move in circles on the internet.
Already there is a thread on the North American Union, which is fodder for nutty Americans and Canadians. This thread was only really fodder for Canoooks.
Anyways. In the reality based world, Canada will remain a sovereign nation that is at the same time interconnected economically, financially and culturally with the behemoth to her south. It is what it is. |
Actually I started it to see what people thought of the idea. I wasn't meant to troll or anything. I guess a different audience would have been in order. |
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mises
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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supernick
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:47 am Post subject: |
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So what makes being an American so great?
I am here and I just think of the place as just another third-world country.
I am thinking the only good thing about being "American" is having the passport (even that is questionable) and having a degree from an American university.....other than that, what else is there?
And please lets not talk about the military- the US is about to have its ass handed to them by the Taliban next year......which will be the second most humiliating defeat of US forces since Vietnam........ |
Don't be so hard on yourself. America has much that the other places don't have. Things will get better soon because of the will of the people. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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An education system that is somewhere near the top of the worlds 10 best... WORLD EDUCATION RANKINGS
UNICEF rankings of educational systems in the world's richest countries, indicating the percentage of 14 and 15 year olds scoring below a minimum level in literacy, math and science.
1. South Korea 1.4 percent
2. Japan 2.2
3. Finland 4.4
4. Canada 5
5. Australia 6.2
6. Austria 8.2
7. Britain 9.4
8. Ireland 10.2
9. Sweden 10.8
10. Czech Republic 12.2
- (tie) New Zealand 12.2
12. France 12.6
13. Switzerland 13
14. Belgium 14
- (tie) Iceland 14
16. Hungary 14.2
- (tie) Norway 14.2
18. United States 16.2
19. Germany 17
- (tie) Denmark 17
21. Spain 18.6
22. Italy 20.2
23. Greece 23.2
24. Portugal 23.6
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/26/world/main530872.shtml |
The fact that Korea tops that list tempts me to rip it into small pieces, burn it, grind the ashes into the dirt, spit on the spot where it lies, and then bury it under a tarmac overcoat. I think you get my point. |
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