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[Bloopity Bloop]

[Xuanzang]

[machoman]

as an asian american, i can attest to what bloop said too. i don't blend in AS much since i've got a shaved head and because i'm mixed with viet, i have a more southeast look. people tend to stare or look at me, and i get a mixture of koreans being confused as to whether or not i'm korean. some even think i'm a white guy. and one korean was so shocked that i spoke english that well.

but yeah, koreans see themselves as the #1 asian and all other asians are beneath them. as far as dating life, a korean girl isn't going to approach the asian-american guy, actually, the asian american is probably the bottom of the totem pole.

as far as making new friends, i don't think

[Bloopity Bloop]

[Bloopity Bloop]

[tanklor1]

I have a Chinese-Candaian friend whose working here, I mentioned when she first came here she should wear a little tag saying: "I'm Deaf." in Korean.

[machoman]

[tomato]

[jacksthirty]

Hey Bloop

Do you play PC games? If so, go to Steam and download Left 4 Dead 2, and I'll meet you on the on-line campaigns.

Nice thread you started by the way. Interesting for a lonely guy such as myself. It's inspired me to crawl outta my shell and find some like minded buddies...

[TheresaTheresa]

[Draz]

[Globutron]

The lips are not the only place I kiss kids here.

Hooves, too.

[tomato]

The paternal drive is evident in animals.

Among most monogamous mammals (Kleiman 1977), notably the Japanese macaque (Itani 1959), the hamadryas baboon (Spencer-Booth 1970), the spectacled langur (Horwich 1974), and most dog and cat species (Spencer-Booth 1970), male adultS have been found carrying infants.
In fact, Mitchell (1969) has found that paternal and maternal behavior in primates develop before puberty.

Adult male primates (Spencer-Booth 1970; Bales 1980), rodents (Spencer-Booth 1970; Elwood 1975; Hartung & Dewsbury, 1979; Makin & Porter 1984; Tasse 1986), dogs (Spencer-Booth 1970), bears (Spencer-Booth 1970), and cats (Spencer-Booth 1970) have been found treating juveniles with affection.

A mother cebid monkey accepts an infant only if a male carries it (Taub 1990). Could this effect also be present to one degree or another in humans too?

These findings are not limited to the adult male's own offspring. Although adult males in the Primate Class prefer infants related to themselves (Koford 1963a, 1963b), they also deal with other infants (Mendoza 1985; Taub 1990). There have been such findings among dogs (Morris 1986b: 13), mice (Smith & Simmel 1977), robins (Harper 1985), eastern bluebirds (Pinkowski 1978; Gowaty & Karlin 1984), and anemonefish (Yanagisawa & Ochi 1986).

The paternal drive is different from the maternal drive.

There are several such differences. Let us consider them one by one:

■ Paternal love is more tolerant toward gross motor activity on the part of the child than is maternal love.

Compared with women teachers, male teachers tend to ask for more free play (Robinson & Hobson 1978; Robinson 1979; Robinson & Canaday 1976). They also initiate athletic and practical activities, such as woodworking and bicycle repair (Murgatroyd 1955; Johnston 1970; Biedenkapp & Goering 1971; Kendall 1972; Lee & Wolinsky 1973; Seifert 1973; Robinson 1979, 1981; Robinson & Hobson 1978; Robinson & Canaday 1976) and even practical activities which are traditionally feminine (Johnston 1970; Williams 1970).

Compared with women teachers, male teachers also have a higher tolerance for noise (Johnston 1970; Robinson & Canaday 1976). What a woman teacher might call "noise and confusion" a man teacher might call "the hum of activity."

■ Paternal love involves more gross motor activity on the part of the adult than maternal love.

Fathers of infants (Lamb 1977a; Kotelchuck 1976; Weinraub & Frankel 1977; Clarke-Stewart 1980; Pedersen 1980a) and fathers of preschoolers (Osofsky & O'Connell 1972) have been found to be more playful than mothers. Male child care workers and teachers are more prone to roughhouse with children than are women child care workers and teachers (Kendall 1972; Seifert 1973; Milgram & Sciarra 1974; Greenberg 1977).

Among child psychologists, there seems to be only one opponent of adults playing with juveniles: turn-of-the-century baby guru L. E. Holt (1907: 167) argued, "Babies under six months old should never be played with; and the less of it at any time the better for the infant." When he was asked what harm was done, he answered, "They are made nervous and irritable, sleep badly, and suffer from indigestion and in many other respects."

L. E. Holt would have to preach his message throughout the Mammal Class. Adult males play with juveniles in most if not all primate species (Bales 1980), specifically Japanese macaques (Itani 1959) and rhesus monkeys (Redican & Mitchell 1973a, 1973b). Adult male spectacled langurs (Horwich 1974) and silverback gorillas (Fossey 1983) allow juveniles to play and tumble on them.

Women teachers saying, "We don't have as much fun with kids because we've been at it longer! Try taking the responsibilities for as long as we have and then act as rambunctious as you do now!" But Field (1978) found that even male primary caregivers of infants are more physically playful than mothers.

Although adult male animals are usually more frolicsome with juveniles than adult females, adults of neither gender have the corner on the market. Species with notably sportive adult females include sheep (Millar 1974: 76), goats (Millar 1974: 76), lions (Millar 1974: 76), and cats (Morris 1986a: 4.

Morris (1977: 257-258) argues that playing with children sets a foundation for a good sense of humor. He analyzes humor as "an expression of a danger encountered but escaped."

In a study by Tasch (1952), 62% of the fathers emphasized children's function as companions. They reported thankfully that "you don't come home and look at four walls."

■ Paternal love is more co-equal than maternal love.

Compared with female teachers, male teachers are less apt to talk down to children (Triplett 1968; Kendall 1972), more likely to allow freedom of speech for children (Robinson & Canaday 1976), and more likely to respond to ongoing activities as opposed to initiating activities themselves (Lee & Wolinsky 1973).

In an study conducted in an elementary school (Lee & Wolinsky 1973), children of both genders were asked the question "Does ______ like you?" Children of both genders were more prone to answer yes in regard to male teachers than in regard to female teachers.

This is not to say that men relate better with children than women. On the contrary, the same study indicated that women might be more nurturant toward children than are men. The same children answered the opposite way when they were asked, "Does ______ care about you?"

■ Paternal love is less verbal than maternal love.

Women talk to infants more than do men (Pedersen 1980a). In a sample of parents (Osofsky & O'Connell 1972), mothers of children were more inclined to give verbal instruction for tasks while fathers were more inclined to physically help.

■ Paternal love is more discriminatory on the basis of gender than maternal love.

It has been found that fathers discriminate on the basis of gender more than do mothers (Tauber 1979). Fathers are more anxious over girl babies' well-being than over that of boy babies (Pedersen & Robson 1969), interact more positively and socially with preschool daughters than with sons (Tauber 1979), interact more with elementary age sons than with daughters (Kotelchuck 1976; Parke & O'Leary 1976; Rendina & Dickerscheid 1976; Lamb 1977a, 1977b), but are more affectionate (Fagot 1978) and more permissive (Rothbart & Maccoby 1966) toward girls than toward boys. Fathers are also more negative toward girls' tomboyish behavior (Tauber 1979) and boys' feminine behavior (Fagot 1978) than are mothers.

It is not just in our species that adult males are more sex-discriminatory in dealing with juveniles. Rather, it is true throughout the Primate Order (Redican 1976).

This is not to say that only men discriminate. Women preschool teachers are more affectionate toward girls than toward boys (Botkin & Twardosz 1988), public school teachers are more harsh in correcting misbehavior on the part of boys (Serbin et al. 1973), and mothers are more permissive toward boys than toward girls (Rothbart & Maccoby 1966).

Parents of both genders are guilty of discrimination. Parents talk to girl babies more than to boy babies (Lamb 1977a). Both parents support active play in boys more than in girls (Tauber 1979). Contrary to findings quoted above, Moss (1967) and Lewis (1972) find that girls receive more attention from both parents than do boys. Girls also receive more affection from both parents than do boys (Lewis 1972).

Our simian cousins are just as guilty. Among the ape species, adults of both genders are more protective toward female infants than toward male infants (Itani 1963; Kummer 1967).

The paternal role is important.

If a father is not present, he is missed. Father absence has an unfavorable effect on school achievement in both boys (Blanchard & Biller 1971) and girls (Landy, Rosenberg, & Sutton-Smith 1969). Sibling abuse is more common among father-absent children (Green, A. H. 1984). Father-absent individuals are overrepresented among heroin addicts (Sullivan & Fleshman 1975).

Father-absent girls are more anxious than father-present girls and feel less control over their lives (Hetherington 1972). 18-month-olds are more upset when left by cross-sex parents than when left by same-sex parents (Weinraub & Frankel 1977). Daughters of divorcees tend to seek approval from men while daughters of widows tend to avoid men (Hetherington 1972).

Screen star Marilyn Monroe was deserted by her father and spent most of her childhood in an orphanage and foster homes. According to Moes (1990), this explains her "seemingly endless quest for validation from men."

Father-absent boys are less assertive and aggressive, more dependent, and less masculine in their game preferences (Stoller 1968; Green, R. 1974; Hetherington & Deur 1971). Father-absent boys have six times the criminal rate of father-present boys (Brody 1978). Father-absent boys in fourth grade have a greater preference for male teachers than do father-present boys (Cortes & Fleming 1968).

Father absence could be enough to drive a person crazy. Father-deprived children are more likely to suffer mental disorders in later life (Tennant, Bebbington, & Hurry 1982). In a large-sample study, 27.6% of psychotic patients had lost one parent by the age of 12, as opposed to 20% of controls (Barry & Bousfield 1937). Throughout history, insane kings were twice as likely to have lost their fathers early in life than sane kings (Barry 1936).

The adult's personality variables could affect children in divers ways. Nurturant fathers have children with higher IQ scores (Radin 1973). Active fathers have more achievement-oriented girls (Tauber 1979). Masculine fathers have more feminine girls (Mussen & Rutherford 1963). Supportive fathers have more sedentary girls, whereas supportive mothers have more active girls (Tauber 1979).

Boys are more likely to identify with fathers who are rewarding, gratifying, understanding, and warm. Such father-identified boys are more calm and friendly (Payne & Mussen 1956). Nurturant and affectionate fathers have more masculine boys (Mussen & Rutherford 1963). Sociable fathers have more creative and friendly boys (Tauber 1979).

How do children react to male teachers? Some writers have postulated that girls need male teachers in order to establish favorable heterosexual attitudes (Topp 1954) and that boys need male teachers in order to establish male identity (Topp 1954; Tolbert 1968; Vairo 1969; Johnston 1970). Burtt (1965) observes that preschool boys with male teachers seem to be easier to handle at home.

Although third and fourth grade girls imitate female teachers more than do boys (Portuges & Feshbach 1972), nursery school boys imitate male teachers more than do girls (Madsen 1968). This confirms the common notion that children follow same-sex role models.

A male teacher could be welcomed by boys as respite from the female chauvinism which allegedly prevails in the schools. Lee & Wolinsky (1973) found that both boys and girls agree that women teachers prefer girls, but that they also agree that men teachers have no preference.
In Germany, where the majority of elementary teachers are men, boys outperform girls in reading achievement (Preston 1962). In the United States, boys' reading achievement was poorer than that of girls under female teachers, but boys equaled girls' achievement with auto-instructional methods (McNeil 1964).

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[Leon]

[redaxe]

Did tomato really just write an entire essay with a bibliography?