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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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if you are in a club, especially a booking club, do you really think "flashing a wedding ring" would stop most guys? this is korea, not church camp. |
Yes this is Korea and that is exactly why it would work 99 times out of a hundred.
Adultery is a crime here punishable by up to two years in jail. |
Not to derail the thread, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the impression that this is a law that is on the books but is very seldom prosecuted. |
Correct. Urban Myth must look at the thousands of Love Hotels in every -gu in Korea and believe married couples are in there!!
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Chris.Quigley
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Location: Belfast. N Ireland
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Before I start the OPs situation is different because she was ignorant as to what a booking club was... wrong place for the wrong person.
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| if you don't want to be harassed, don't go to X is like saying if you don't want to be raped, don't wear X. |
Well... this is a little different...
Just because a woman dresses like a prostitute doesn't mean that she is... I agree...
But, if a woman dresses like a prostitute, and sleeps with men for money like a prostitute... what is she?
OP... you are like a woman who dressed like a prostitute, hung out in the red light district, and got in a nice man's car because he offered you a ride... then complained when you found out he wanted to pay you to have sex with him...
(my brother in law accidently picked up a prostitute once and offered her a ride home... haha... when she realized that he wasn't interested in sex and was just offering her a ride because it was -15 out... she asked him to turn around... awkward... it can happen to anyone I guess) |
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s.tickbeat
Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| (my brother in law accidently picked up a prostitute once and offered her a ride home... haha... when she realized that he wasn't interested in sex and was just offering her a ride because it was -15 out... she asked him to turn around... awkward... it can happen to anyone I guess) |
lols. If you don't want to be solicited by a prostitute, don't offer her a ride home. 
By the way yes - if you don't want to be booked (or asked to book, or harassed for booking, or whatever) then don't go to the booking clubs.
Now that I DO know what it is this whole thread is more than a little embarrassing. Booking seems like it could be fun if there was a way to guarantee safety: meet some people, practice speaking some Korean, dance, eat some unbelievably elaborately arranged fruit. . . all while being entertained by people in shiny costume pretending to sing!
Can women book other women? Or men, for that matter?
And again, I don't equate booking with sexual harassment. Just to be clear. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Now that I DO know what it is this whole thread is more than a little embarrassing. Booking seems like it could be fun if there was a way to guarantee safety: meet some people, practice speaking some Korean, dance, eat some unbelievably elaborately arranged fruit. . . all while being entertained by people in shiny costume pretending to sing!
Can women book other women? Or men, for that matter?
And again, I don't equate booking with sexual harassment. Just to be clear. |
why not find a social club (korea has more than you could possible ever imagine) and join that? a booking club simply isn't made for what you are looking for.
your statement is akin to someone going to a shooting range because the atmosphere is fun and you get to meet new people but gets offended when people try to get you to pop off a few rounds. it just doesn't work. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
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Now that I DO know what it is this whole thread is more than a little embarrassing. Booking seems like it could be fun if there was a way to guarantee safety: meet some people, practice speaking some Korean, dance, eat some unbelievably elaborately arranged fruit. . . all while being entertained by people in shiny costume pretending to sing!
Can women book other women? Or men, for that matter?
And again, I don't equate booking with sexual harassment. Just to be clear. |
why not find a social club (korea has more than you could possible ever imagine) and join that? a booking club simply isn't made for what you are looking for.
your statement is akin to someone going to a shooting range because the atmosphere is fun and you get to meet new people but gets offended when people try to get you to pop off a few rounds. it just doesn't work. |
Ah, but a rifle club doesn't look like an amusement park. She said that she'd gone several times, not knowing about the booking. Live and learn. She'll have a funny story when she goes home. |
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s.tickbeat
Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Ah, but a rifle club doesn't look like an amusement park. She said that she'd gone several times, not knowing about the booking. Live and learn. She'll have a funny story when she goes home. |
I'd gone once before, with a mixed-gender group. But yeah, I guess.
Anyway no matter where I go or what I'm doing I expect a certain level of respect and common human decency. Booking doesn't equal sexual harassment, and even if I ever do choose to do it I'm not choosing to be harassed. I'm choosing to meet new people, and have a good time where mutual respect and boundaries exist.
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| your statement is akin to someone going to a shooting range because the atmosphere is fun and you get to meet new people but gets offended when people try to get you to pop off a few rounds. it just doesn't work. |
More like going to a shooting range to have some fun firing some rounds and then some idiot points their gun at your face (even in a joking manner). Not cool, man. Not cool at all. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| s.tickbeat wrote: |
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| Ah, but a rifle club doesn't look like an amusement park. She said that she'd gone several times, not knowing about the booking. Live and learn. She'll have a funny story when she goes home. |
I'd gone once before, with a mixed-gender group. But yeah, I guess.
Anyway no matter where I go or what I'm doing I expect a certain level of respect and common human decency. Booking doesn't equal sexual harassment, and even if I ever do choose to do it I'm not choosing to be harassed. I'm choosing to meet new people, and have a good time where mutual respect and boundaries exist. |
This is Korea. The boundaries of respect and common human decency are a lot different here. Non-existent at times, maybe.
Korean girls know they will get dragged to a guy's table if they go to these booking places. It's the "culture". Yes, we would and could call it harassment but here in Korea it's disappointingly part of the game.
It pisses me off when I see these booking club guys out on the street physically trying to pull girls towards these clubs. Back home it would be considered harassment but here unless the police took a stop to it, I am negatively calling it "Korean Culture". |
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s.tickbeat
Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Booking isn't harassment, and it shouldn't offend anyone who knows about it any more than knowingly stepping into a strip club should. In a workplace environment, dancing naked women are considered sexual harassment (or worse); in a strip club it's part of the 'contract' you 'sign' by going in. Sucks to be the ignorant wander-inner of a strip club, mind. Could be shocking and even threatening, like ignorantly getting booked and not knowing wtf it is.
But being brought to someone's table is fairly innocuous. Even if the point is sex, no one gets laid by offending the person they're talking to. Ask someone you've been talking to for some contact info - no harm done. Intimidation, threats, and verbal abuse are a different animal and construe harassment, in any culture. Those guys outside the booking clubs are just doing their job, they're not especially gross or intimidating, if distasteful. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Wow, OP you are either trolling (in which case well done) or kind of slow on the uptake....
The solution was presented to you way back on page 1: do not go to booking clubs.
Now to avoid you further shock and dismay:
If you want to stay dry, stay out of the rain as water is wet.
If you want to get on the bus, best wait for the door to open.
If you grab things at the grocery store and chuck them in your basket, you will have to pay for them once you reach the cashier.
Be careful out there and please do NOT attempt to chew gum and walk at the same time, the result could be catastrophic. |
Dude, didn't you read this post?
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shortened for brevity
Wow, the replies have been rather vitriolic. I posted this the morning after an extremely terrifying experience. I had no idea what booking was, what the culture of it was, or anything aside from what a close friend had rapidly explained to me after I fled the nightclub. For the most part I agree with the replies: don't go to booking clubs if you don't want to get booked. Pretty straightforward. I'll stick to my dance clubs now.
When I posted this I was asking from a position of sheer fucking ignorance, rage, and fear. I'm still angry about it (what part of '아니 don't you understand)? but generally your points are all valid. |
Why the belated and rude post, man? Or did you just read the first post and decide you're going to tell the OP what's what? |
Nevermind but thanks for playing the behavioral police.
I will gladly pay my fine and be on my way Zyf. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| It pisses me off when I see these booking club guys out on the street physically trying to pull girls towards these clubs. Back home it would be considered harassment but here unless the police took a stop to it, I am negatively calling it "Korean Culture". |
Okay, I either haven't seen this or I've seen it and been oblivious to it, and I don't know how much you've hung out in clubbing areas of big cities in the West, but in my experience promotional guys at home come awfully close to pulling girls into their clubs, particularly drunk girls. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, Homer. Even your attempt to back out of your prior comments is dickish. I'm impressed.
I'm not that bothered if you're a jerk or not. Tons of people are on here. But I'm tired of seeing people read the first post and frantically typing out some inane post when the "big issue" has already been resolved. RTFM. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Not backing out of anything Zyf.
Just responding to your post in kind buddy.
Oh and I DID respond to the initial post because it was worthy of a humorous/sarcastic response.
Also, there is no BIG issue in this thread, in fact this is an inane thread if there ever was one. In order for there to be an issue, something important must be on the table...going to booking clubs and not wanted to be booked is no ISSUE.
Take care Zyf. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
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going to booking clubs and not wanted to be booked is no ISSUE.
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Agreed, but the OP did not state she did not want to be booked. She stated that the employees basically coerced her to stay in a place she did not want to be in. She did not want to be harassed or physically compelled to be in a certain place. Learn to read next time eh buddy?  |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:53 am Post subject: |
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going to booking clubs and not wanted to be booked is no ISSUE.
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Agreed, but the OP did not state she did not want to be booked. She stated that the employees basically coerced her to stay in a place she did not want to be in. She did not want to be harassed or physically compelled to be in a certain place. Learn to read next time eh buddy? |
Well she did visit these places MULTIPLE TIMES...so I guess it took a while for the coercition to become apparent with all the fancy fruit plates flying around. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Well she did visit these places MULTIPLE TIMES...so I guess it took a while for the coercition to become apparent with all the fancy fruit plates flying around. Laughing |
She said she had been going with her husband in a big group before this particular incident. Again, requires reading the entire thread and the course of the net-conversation.
You take it easy too, no hard feelings. |
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