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 Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Feel the need to rectify one thing. Base, introductory salary for a FT has not been above the average college-educated salary in Korea since I got here in 1997.
FT have always been paid well but not above average unless they have had jobs that paid above the basic, introductory salary.
You earned 1.2 million per month by the way in 1997.
Salaries have nearly doubled since then! And, basically did at one point. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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I looked at this site. There is one key factor that I haven't seen anybody mention on this thread: most of the people who entered their salaries on that site are EXPATS, and expats tend to get paid more than locals for the work they do. Considering that, I think having the average salary around 5 million won a month is likely accurate.
I must also say that this site makes me feel good about my job. I don't make as much money as some people on that site claim, but I am above the average and I work only 5 or 6 hours a day, 4 days a week, whereas most people there work around 40 to 45 hours a week. So I guess I'm doing okay. |
Are you teaching that many hours a day? |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
I looked at this site. There is one key factor that I haven't seen anybody mention on this thread: most of the people who entered their salaries on that site are EXPATS, and expats tend to get paid more than locals for the work they do. Considering that, I think having the average salary around 5 million won a month is likely accurate.
I must also say that this site makes me feel good about my job. I don't make as much money as some people on that site claim, but I am above the average and I work only 5 or 6 hours a day, 4 days a week, whereas most people there work around 40 to 45 hours a week. So I guess I'm doing okay. |
Are you teaching that many hours a day? |
Around that much, yes. But that's also around the number of hours that I am at work each day. If I have 5 classes, maybe I'm there for 5 and a half hours a day. With 6 classes, a bit over six hours. And some days I teach fewer classes. Today, for instance, I only have 3 classes, so I'll be at work for less than 4 hours today. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
I looked at this site. There is one key factor that I haven't seen anybody mention on this thread: most of the people who entered their salaries on that site are EXPATS, and expats tend to get paid more than locals for the work they do. Considering that, I think having the average salary around 5 million won a month is likely accurate.
I must also say that this site makes me feel good about my job. I don't make as much money as some people on that site claim, but I am above the average and I work only 5 or 6 hours a day, 4 days a week, whereas most people there work around 40 to 45 hours a week. So I guess I'm doing okay. |
Are you teaching that many hours a day? |
Around that much, yes. But that's also around the number of hours that I am at work each day. If I have 5 classes, maybe I'm there for 5 and a half hours a day. With 6 classes, a bit over six hours. And some days I teach fewer classes. Today, for instance, I only have 3 classes, so I'll be at work for less than 4 hours today. |
That seems like a lot to be teaching even if it is only 4 days a week. How about your prep time for classes? You don't mark anything? How about your vacation/holiday periods? |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
I looked at this site. There is one key factor that I haven't seen anybody mention on this thread: most of the people who entered their salaries on that site are EXPATS, and expats tend to get paid more than locals for the work they do. Considering that, I think having the average salary around 5 million won a month is likely accurate.
I must also say that this site makes me feel good about my job. I don't make as much money as some people on that site claim, but I am above the average and I work only 5 or 6 hours a day, 4 days a week, whereas most people there work around 40 to 45 hours a week. So I guess I'm doing okay. |
Are you teaching that many hours a day? |
Around that much, yes. But that's also around the number of hours that I am at work each day. If I have 5 classes, maybe I'm there for 5 and a half hours a day. With 6 classes, a bit over six hours. And some days I teach fewer classes. Today, for instance, I only have 3 classes, so I'll be at work for less than 4 hours today. |
That seems like a lot to be teaching even if it is only 4 days a week. How about your prep time for classes? You don't mark anything? How about your vacation/holiday periods? |
Is it a lot of teaching hours? I work in a hagwon. Teaching 30 hours a week is not uncommon, but I generally only teach around 20-25 hours a week. That's comparable to what school teachers in the US teach each week. For this month, my hours are less, only 17 per week with Wednesdays off. Not bad. Also, it's worth mentioning that I basically only teach four unique lessons each week: two TOEFL classes, and two writing and debate classes. So after teaching the first lesson for each class, teaching the rest requires little energy or effort.
As I mentioned above, I teach TOEFL mainly. I use the materials that I have developed over the past few years, which means I don't really need to spend much time prepping anymore. I occasionally make a new handout or tweak one of my old ones, but in general my teaching method produces strong results (i.e. improved test scores), so I don't feel the need to do much R/D these days. I do have to grade essays, but it's gotten to the point where I can score an essay in under a minute, so the time burden isn't that much. And I structure my classes so that I can do at least some, if not all, of my grading during class time.
Being a hagwon, vacation time is not the best. I know you work in an international school and have about 190 work days a year. I estimate that I work around 240 days per year. I assume you work about 8 hours a day, no? If that is the case, then you probably work about the same number of hours I do each year (your 190*8=1,520 versus my 240*6=1440) Of course, having a couple months where you don't to go to work at all is better, but that's not gonna happen in a hagwon. So, for the time being at least, I'll take satisfaction in the fact that I earn a good hourly salary despite not having much time to relax each year. |
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