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How Bad Is The Job Situation? Will it Improve?
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'd be pretty stupid if they ran off to pack suitcases on the basis of those stories about 'super' teachers that appear on here every so often. We all know how Koreans like to jump on Internet-based band-wagons and follow the latest thing everyone claims is the best. Those teachers are just celebrities, who I'm pretty sure 'teach' 90% of their classes in Korean while the 'students' just sit and watch and convince themselves they're actually learning something or more likely preparing themselves better for some mindless test. Oh, and the one in that story's a good-looking woman, what a surprise. Westerners coming over here on the bases of that would be like a chef traveling to the UK to make millions after watching Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For a middle school in Beijing, I got 13000 yuan per month, before taxes, but to move into SHARED accommodation, I had to pay 9200 yuan up front. Rent is paid every 4 months here. There's a problem: I might not be paid over the summer, and yet my contract continues till next February.


Obviously there's something the poster is not telling us. There are plenty of jobs available that have the same or higher pay for single accommodation and free utilities and no rent.
Of course most of these aren't in Beijing
Here's one of the offers I got to teach in China
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Fuzhou Public High School with 14000-18000 RMB with free apartment plus
16 lessons a week.



Here's another

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Jiangsu Wuxi public primary school with 10,000 to 18000 RMB with free apartment. 20 lessons a week.



Here's a third (also in Fuzhou)

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Fuzhou Middle School with 14000-18000 RMB with free apartment plus.
15 lessons a week.


Like I've always said...know what you are looking for, do your homework, then go for the goal.

That aside...to address the topic. Korea's glory days are long behind it. And I don't see them coming back anytime soon. Conditions across the board (except for a select few) have gotten worse and worse. And the coming demographic crunch is going to make things even tougher.


Even though I was in quite a "cushy" position I saw 'the writing on the wall' so as to speak and jumped ship at the end of my contract. And this is coming from one of the biggest Korean boosters on these forums.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
They'd be pretty stupid if they ran off to pack suitcases on the basis of those stories about 'super' teachers that appear on here every so often. We all know how Koreans like to jump on Internet-based band-wagons and follow the latest thing everyone claims is the best. Those teachers are just celebrities, who I'm pretty sure 'teach' 90% of their classes in Korean while the 'students' just sit and watch and convince themselves they're actually learning something or more likely preparing themselves better for some mindless test. Oh, and the one in that story's a good-looking woman, what a surprise. Westerners coming over here on the bases of that would be like a chef traveling to the UK to make millions after watching Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares.

I'm really shocked by the incongruity between these Koreans' receptive (well, reading but not listening) skills and productive (speaking) skills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X3PM25pr0g
Shouldn't there be a great demand for native English speaking teachers to teach speaking in Korea? (Maybe the key word is should?)
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Chaparrastique



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Korea's glory days are long behind it. And I don't see them coming back anytime soon.


The biggest change I've noticed is that employers are much more openly obnoxious and abusive of FT's now that the power dynamic is in their favour.

When wayguks were hard to come by all you ever got was a wall of politeness- even if they hated you- because you were hard to replace.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: How Bad Is The Job Situation? Will it Improve? Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
wonkavite62 wrote:

Do you think the job market in Korea will improve next year, especially as US unemployment falls?
No.

Not likely because US unemployment stats are deceptive, its mostly a jobless recovery.

U.S. unemployment is 5.3% now. (Same as 2005.) How is that deceptive? U1 AND U3 AND U6 is falling and has been for a while.
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