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matthewwoodford

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Location, location, location.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:27 am Post subject: |
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*amoureuse*
cajones= drawers, like dresser drawers where you keep socks and underwear
cojones=balls |
I would say that I am embarazada, but I am not, really!  |
You would say that you're pregnant?
It took me years to feel comfortable saying the word 'dude' and now I'm happy I can say it. There's loads of things that sound cool when Americans say them that I couldn't get away with...I just can't think of any right now off the top of my head.
Tiger beer's right. There's stuff it's just wrong for Brits to say. |
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*amoureuse*
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| matthewwoodford wrote: |
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*amoureuse*
cajones= drawers, like dresser drawers where you keep socks and underwear
cojones=balls |
I would say that I am embarazada, but I am not, really!  |
You would say that you're pregnant? |
Many beginning Spanish speakers (usually English speakers) use the Spanish word "embarazada" to mean "embarrassed". She was playing with the word in a foreigner way.  |
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| Rylees wrote: |
Americans, generally speaking, wouldn't want to use the word "bloke"
1) It sounds somewhat homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that)...
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So do you actually mean that it sounds literally homosexual, or do you mean that it sounds foriegn to you?
"Bloke" was originally a working class word, and would not have been spoken by "toffs" 100 years ago. If you think there's something inherently homosexual about the English you should know that the bulk of the country's economy is based on coal mining, steel production, and shipping. The majority of the population is working class. If you think there's something soft about the Brittish I suggest you go into a public bar in Sheffield or New Castle at around 7pm on a weeknight. The patrons will end your life as an active walking around person just for looking at them funny. Ever heard of a Liverpool kiss?...  |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
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| Anyway his name was Guy. You didn't say 'some guy called Guy Fawkes', did you? You said 'some bloke called Guy Fawkes'. And he tried to blow up parliament, not burn it down. |
Now that hombre had cajones! |
Our very first terrorist. The Bin Laden of his day. |
Guy Fawkes, the only man to enter Parliament with honest intentions. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| Swiss James wrote: |
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| [Partly from Middle English gie, guide, guy (from Old French guie, from guier, to guide. See weid- in Indo-European Roots), and partly from Low German; akin to Dutch gei, brail.] |
Leslie, I'm questioning your CD sleeve, spilling it's pint AND calling its Mum a poof. Perhaps you'd like to step outside... |
That was his name and you looked it up. How wonderful. But the question remains: Bid Brits, before 1962, use the word 'guy' to refer to the male of the species? |
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honeybuzz

Joined: 26 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
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It sounds somewhat homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that)...
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So do you actually mean that it sounds literally homosexual, or do you mean that it sounds foriegn to you? |
In the US, British and French accents are usually portrayed as effeminate. As a result, people who try to pull one off with any frequency tend to have their sexuality called into question. It's a stereotype. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| honeybuzz wrote: |
In the US, British and French accents are usually portrayed as effeminate. As a result, people who try to pull one off with any frequency tend to have their sexuality called into question. It's a stereotype. |
For the record, I don't know any brits who are bothered by this supposed stereotype, and the reality is that when my countrymen go to the states we are complimented on our accents so often it gets annoying.
p.s. Leslie I haven't actually got a clue. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| In the US, British and French accents are usually portrayed as effeminate. |
And I'm saying this is rather insane, as Brits are on the whole, probably a tougher bunch than the luxury-softened yanks.
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As a result, people who try to pull one off with any frequency tend to have their sexuality called into question. It's a stereotype. |
No argument from me here ...  |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
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| In the US, British and French accents are usually portrayed as effeminate. |
And I'm saying this is rather insane, as Brits are on the whole, probably a tougher bunch than the luxury-softened yanks.
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That would depend on the demographic by and large I suspect. However, there is a frightening new breed of brit sweeping the nation. Chavs and scallies.
http://www.scallycentral.com/
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I read most of that site, couldn't take my eyes away, hilarious ... |
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tommynomad

Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Location: on the move
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| The Man known as The Man wrote: |
Bloke is a gay word.
Bloke is a really gay word. |
A gay word???
You mean it loves only the other words used to describe the male of the species? |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Some Other Guy
Writers: Jerry Leiber, Mike Stoller, Barrett
Some other guy now, has taken my love away from me, oh now
Some other guy now, has taken away my sweet desire, oh now
Some other guy now, I just don't wanna hold my hand, oh now
I'm the lonely one, as lonely as I can feel all right
Some other guy now, is sippin' up the honey like a yellow dog, oh now
Some other guy now, has taken my love just like I'm gone, oh now
Some other guy now, has taken my love away from me, oh now
I'm the lonely one, as lonely as I can feel all right
Oh oh hoho
Oh yeah! Ow! Ow!
Some other guy, is makin' me very very mad, oh now
Some other guy now, is makin' my past seem oh so bad, oh now
Some other guy now, she was the first girl I ever had, oh now
I'm the lonely one, as lonely as I can feel all right
Oh oh hoho
I'm a-talkin' to you, right now
Ow!
Hey! Yeah!
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Can Americans use the word "bloke" |
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| Intrepid wrote: |
Anyone can use "guy." Can you take a North American who uses the word "bloke" seriously?
How about "brilliant" to mean "great"?
Cheers! (And how about "Cheers") |
Brilliant post!
Cheers! |
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John Henry
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, this is hillarious. Thanks for digging it up.
I'd say that without question, no American should ever say the work 'bloke'. It's like going to church with yer shirt off, it just don't feel right.
However, if one is out getting hammered with reasonably close Brittish friends it is OK to say 'bullocks', as long as it is pronounced BALL-ox, and you are not expecting to be taken too seriously. The occasional 'bloody hell' is also OK, as long as everyone is joking around and hacking on each other. W@nker is acceptable under certain circumstances because...well, some people are just w@nkers.
Furthermore, under no circumstances should an American refer to a cigarette as a "f@g". In fact, Brits should cease this practice as well.
It is, of course, OK for anyone to use the word pint, as beer is sold in pints. Anyone found ordering a 'glass' or 'cup' or 'mug' or (gasp) bottle of Guiness should be served budweiser, or perhaps Old English 800.
That is all for now.
John
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John Henry
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| edit: double post. |
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