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Depleted Uranium - why do we hear so little about it?
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
All sources are biased in one way or another. There will always be different interpretions of anything. You are right to view any source of information with great scepticism. However, we should also take care not to ignore uncomfortable truths and sweep them under the carpet. Wink


Rather than try to shock us with pictures of unknown origin and newspapers that cite unrecognized sources, why not break out the science? Though the science on the market recognizes says DU is safe.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs257/en/

Whoever said that any that enters the body will head to the bones is wrong as most of it will be expelled within 24 hours. 98% won't even be absorbed and will pass through, while 70% of that 2% which is absorbed will be expelled within 24 hours and rising.

Plus it's naturally occurring anyway. Often children consume some when playing in dirt and it's found in small amounts in everyday food stuffs. If it was the walking death you're trying to make it out to be, we're all screwed. I'd rather chew on chunks of DU than start inhaling radon gas which is naturally occurring in many people's basements.

4.5 billion year half life? That means it's very stable. As mentioned before, it's far safer to live in a world where everything is made of DU than lead.

Don't tease us with emotional appeals, bust out the science love.

I also don't see where in the 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons where it says DU has to go. It says no land-mines, no boody traps, no lasers aimed at the eyes, no incendiary weapons and no projectiles that can't be found on an X-Ray if it enters a body.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gord wrote:
Rather than try to shock us with pictures of unknown origin and newspapers that cite unrecognized sources, why not break out the science?


The Sunday Times February 19, 2006
UK radiation jump blamed on Iraq shells Shocked
Mark Gould and Jon Ungoed-Thomas

RADIATION detectors in Britain recorded a fourfold increase in uranium levels in the atmosphere after the
��shock and awe�� bombing campaign against Iraq, according to a report.

Environmental scientists who uncovered the figures through freedom of information laws say it is evidence that depleted uranium from the shells was carried by wind currents to Britain.

Government officials, however, say the sharp rise in uranium detected by radiation monitors in Berkshire was a coincidence and probably came from local sources.

The results from testing stations at the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) in Aldermaston and four other stations within a 10-mile radius were obtained by Chris Busby, of Liverpool University��s department of human anatomy and cell biology.

Each detector recorded a significant rise in uranium levels during the Gulf war bombing campaign in March 2003. The reading from a park in Reading was high enough for the Environment Agency to be alerted.

Busby, who has advised the government on radiation and is a founder of Green Audit, the environmental consultancy, believes ��uranium aerosols�� from Iraq were widely dispersed in the atmosphere and blown across Europe.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C2087-2047373%2C00.html

February 21, 2006
P.I.D. Radio 2/21/06: Scott Stevens - Weather Wars Part 1

Scott Stevens
We begin a three-part interview with Scott Stevens, meteorologist who left a career as TV weatherman to explore the boundaries of science: Weather modification and control.

Show links:
Scott Stevens�� website, WeatherWars.info
Bush nominated DPW exec for top US maritime slot
Emergency supplemental hides millions for NSA

http://peeringintodarkness.com/radio/?p=158

It occurred to us just after the show: The reason President Bush is so bent on selling control of our ports to the United Arab Emirates probably has something to do with the U.A.E.��s location just across the Persian Gulf from Iran Twisted Evil

Makes for good air bases, if you get our drift
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igotthisguitar



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Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow link to approx. 4 minute mark of mp3.

Updates on Halliburton's URANIUM contamination around the world following SHOCK & AWE
as well as attack on TORRA BORA Twisted Evil

http://www.peeringintodarkness.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=d4ca9fec670d8886310a78281633c0db;topic=2290.0

3-part interview with Carl Schwartz interview to follow shortly Arrow

The Queen's Death Star
Depleted Uranium Measured in British Atmosphere
from Battlefields in the Middle East


By Leuren Moret
2-26-6

The Sunday Times Online, February 19, 2006, reported on a shocking scientific study authored by British scientists Dr. Chris Busby and Saoirse Morgan:

"Did the use of Uranium weapons in Gulf War 2 result in contamination of Europe? Evidence from the measurements of the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE), Aldermaston, Berkshire, UK".

The highest levels of depleted uranium ever measured in the atmosphere in Britain, were transported on air currents from the Middle East and Central Asia; of special significance were those from the Tora Bora bombing in Afghanistan in 2001, and the "Shock & Awe" bombing during Gulf War II in Iraq in 2003. Out of concern for the public, the official British government air monitoring facility, known as the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE), at Aldermaston was established years ago, to measure radioactive emissions from British nuclear power plants and atomic weapons facilities.

The British government facility (AWE) was taken over 3 years ago by Halliburton, which refused at first to release air monitoring data, as required by law, to Dr. Busby. An international expert on low level radiation, Busby serves as an official advisor on several British government committees, and co-authored an independent report on low level radiation with 45 scientists, the European Committee on Radiation Risk (ECRR) , for the European Parliament.

He was able to get Aldermaston air monitoring data from Halliburton /AWE by filing a Freedom of Information request using a new British law which became effective January 1, 2005; but the data for 2003 was missing. Confused

He obtained the 2003 data from the Defence Procurement Agency.

http://www.rense.com/general69/deathstar.htm
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depleted Uranium For Dummies Idea
2006 03 26

By Irving Wesley Hall | countercurrents.org
Under the direction of Secretary of Defense Cheney, the 1991 Gulf War began with a "shock and awe" bombing campaign that destroyed large biological laboratories, chemical plants, and nuclear enrichment facilities, most of them around Baghdad.



Many sites were illegally supplied by the Reagan-Bush administration, in which both Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld served, so the United States government knew their locations.

Biological, chemical and nuclear weapons damage the bodies of soldiers in distinct ways. The first employs deadly bacteria and viruses to cause known illnesses. The second uses poisonous, or toxic, substances to attack the body's chemistry. Nuclear weapons, such as depleted uranium (D.U.), were unimaginable before World War II. They attack the body with invisible radioactive energy that, as you will soon read, produces a wider variety of symptoms that develop over a longer period of time. Radioactive heavy metal particles embedded in the body are both radioactive and toxic.

Biological, chemical and nuclear weapons can potentially "blow back." Once they are released, they can kill and maim civilians as well as enemy soldiers. Hence all three have been banned by international treaties which the United States signed.

They also blow back on the army that uses them. The practical danger to America's own troops prevented the widespread use of WMD's until the atomic bombs in World War II and the chemical herbicide Agent Orange in Vietnam. Hundreds of thousands of American troops suffered and died because of the testing and use of these weapons.

http://www.red-ice.net/specialreports/2006/03mar/DUdummies.html
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In April, in British-occupied Basra, the European aid agency Saving Children from War reported: "The mortality of young children had increased by 30 percent compared with the Saddam Hussein era." They die because the hospitals have no ventilators and the water supply, which the British were meant to have fixed, is more polluted than ever. Children fall victim to unexploded U.S. and British cluster bombs. They play in areas contaminated by depleted uranium; by contrast, British army survey teams venture there only in full-body radiation suits, face masks, and gloves. Unlike the children they came to "liberate," British troops are given what the Ministry of Defense calls "full biological testing."


http://www.newstatesman.com/200606190029
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
In April, in British-occupied Basra, the European aid agency Saving Children from War reported: "The mortality of young children had increased by 30 percent compared with the Saddam Hussein era." They die because the hospitals have no ventilators and the water supply, which the British were meant to have fixed, is more polluted than ever. Children fall victim to unexploded U.S. and British cluster bombs. They play in areas contaminated by depleted uranium; by contrast, British army survey teams venture there only in full-body radiation suits, face masks, and gloves. Unlike the children they came to "liberate," British troops are given what the Ministry of Defense calls "full biological testing."


http://www.newstatesman.com/200606190029
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sickened Iraq Vets Cite Depleted Uranium
By DEBORAH HASTINGS, AP National Writer
Sat Aug 12, 10:02 PM ET

NEW YORK - It takes at least 10 minutes and a large glass of orange juice to wash down all the pills � morphine, methadone, a muscle relaxant, an antidepressant, a stool softener. Viagra for sexual dysfunction. Valium for his nerves.

Four hours later, Herbert Reed will swallow another 15 mg of morphine to cut the pain clenching every part of his body. He will do it twice more before the day is done.



Since he left a bombed-out train depot in Iraq, his gums bleed. There is more blood in his urine, and still more in his stool. Bright light hurts his eyes. A tumor has been removed from his thyroid. Rashes erupt everywhere, itching so badly they seem to live inside his skin. Migraines cleave his skull. His joints ache, grating like door hinges in need of oil.

There is something massively wrong with Herbert Reed, though no one is sure what it is. He believes he knows the cause, but he cannot convince anyone caring for him that the military's new favorite weapon has made him terrifyingly sick.

In the sprawling bureaucracy of the Department of Veterans Affairs, he has many caretakers. An internist, a neurologist, a pain-management specialist, a psychologist, an orthopedic surgeon and a dermatologist. He cannot function without his stupefying arsenal of medications, but they exact a high price.

"I'm just a zombie walking around," he says.

Reed believes depleted uranium has contaminated him and his life. He now walks point in a vitriolic war over the Pentagon's arsenal of it � thousands of shells and hundreds of tanks coated with the metal that is radioactive, chemically toxic, and nearly twice as dense as lead.

A shell coated with depleted uranium pierces a tank like a hot knife through butter, exploding on impact into a charring inferno. As tank armor, it repels artillery assaults. It also leaves behind a fine radioactive dust with a half-life of 4.5 billion years.

Depleted uranium is the garbage left from producing enriched uranium for nuclear weapons and energy plants. It is 60 percent as radioactive as natural uranium. The U.S. has an estimated 1.5 billion pounds of it, sitting in hazardous waste storage sites across the country. Meaning it is plentiful and cheap as well as highly effective.

Reed says he unknowingly breathed DU dust while living with his unit in Samawah, Iraq. He was med-evaced out in July 2003, nearly unable to walk because of lightning-strike pains from herniated discs in his spine. Then began a strange series of symptoms he'd never experienced in his previously healthy life.

At Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C, he ran into a buddy from his unit. And another, and another, and in the tedium of hospital life between doctor visits and the dispensing of meds, they began to talk.

"We all had migraines. We all felt sick," Reed says. "The doctors said, 'It's all in your head.' " Wink

Then the medic from their unit showed up. He too, was suffering. That made eight sick soldiers from the 442nd Military Police, an Army National Guard unit made up of mostly cops and correctional officers from the New York area.

But the medic knew something the others didn't.

Dutch marines had taken over the abandoned train depot dubbed Camp Smitty, which was surrounded by tank skeletons, unexploded ordnance and shell casings. They'd brought radiation-detection devices. The readings were so hot, the Dutch set up camp in the middle of the desert rather than live in the station ruins.

"We got on the Internet," Reed said, "and we started researching depleted uranium."

Then they contacted The New York Daily News, which paid for sophisticated urine tests available only overseas.

Then they hired a lawyer.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
In April, in British-occupied Basra, the European aid agency Saving Children from War reported: "The mortality of young children had increased by 30 percent compared with the Saddam Hussein era." They die because the hospitals have no ventilators and the water supply, which the British were meant to have fixed, is more polluted than ever. Children fall victim to unexploded U.S. and British cluster bombs. They play in areas contaminated by depleted uranium; by contrast, British army survey teams venture there only in full-body radiation suits, face masks, and gloves. Unlike the children they came to "liberate," British troops are given what the Ministry of Defense calls "full biological testing."


http://www.newstatesman.com/200606190029


Oh John Pilger someone who supports the insurgents.
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