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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't mention severance pay.. or is it just a given they have it each year.

A two-year contract is interesting. What does that mean exactly? Are there two year work visas?
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yet no matter how i slice it, i'll still be making less than at my current hagwon, even if i do camps during the vacation.


I don't know how many ways I can tell you people that this is something you really should do. Making less? If you can't find other lucrative things to do during the half the week that you aren't working at the university you don't deserve vacation.

Tiger Beer, this is from efllaw.com:

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Private secondary/tertiary schools that provide pensions under the private schools pension law are exempt from the severance pay law.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
It doesn't mention severance pay.. or is it just a given they have it each year.


Private universities can offer a private pension plan instead of severance, and most of them do exactly that. If they don't mention severance, then they probably don't pay it.

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A two-year contract is interesting. What does that mean exactly? Are there two year work visas?


No, you have to extend your ARC for a year at the end of the first year.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude above has a point

you may make less at a university but if you are working 10 - 15 hours per week at a uni and you are able to pick up several lucrative part-time gigs on the side, you'll make more money.

1.5 Mill, or whatever BNU is paying, is pretty damn low though.
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ohfamous



Joined: 10 Jul 2004
Location: Off the beaten path

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pyongshin does make a point, but all the E1/E2's will have to work illegally for extra dough. yes, i know that everyone does this, but i guess i come from a straight-shooter's point of view.

also, he said he does no prep for class, but i'm estimating to prep one hour for each hour of class i have, which means 24 hours of work per week. yes, it's because i'm a newbie and i take work seriously, but i find it hard to believe that you veterans can teach a full 12-15 hours with absolutely no prep. either you're god's gift to the classroom or your classes suck.

besides, when you teach privates, how much time does it take for you to prep as well as travel? this is an honest question, but i'm assuming you prep at least something and you don't have instant teleportation devices.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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either you're god's gift to the classroom or your classes suck.


My bank doesn't know the difference.

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besides, when you teach privates, how much time does it take for you to prep as well as travel? this is an honest question, but i'm assuming you prep at least something and you don't have instant teleportation devices.


Those assumptions will get you nowhere. You will pay the price for your lack of vision. Of course there is travel time. Buy a car.
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ajstew



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: hongik Reply with quote

Well the interview was going to be tomorrow... and I'm very pleased that I can officially say that I no longer have to attend the 2nd wave of interviews as I've just been offered a terrific position in Seoul. I wish all of you the best of luck in finding that dream university position.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, how is your new job better than Hongik?
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ajstew



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: hongik Reply with quote

It may not be.... but I loved the people I met at the interview... seems like a terrific staff. It's a university not far from Seoul... 6 stops from Seoul Station. 2,300,000 won a month starting salary, for 15 hours. Just about the whole vacation plan, although you have to work for one month of your choice... summer or winter vacation. One month severance pay at the conclusion. Free housing. I'd call that a terrific position.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: hongik Reply with quote

ajstew wrote:
It may not be.... but I loved the people I met at the interview... seems like a terrific staff. It's a university not far from Seoul... 6 stops from Seoul Station. 2,300,000 won a month starting salary, for 15 hours. Just about the whole vacation plan, although you have to work for one month of your choice... summer or winter vacation. One month severance pay at the conclusion. Free housing. I'd call that a terrific position.


Helluva lot better than my bucket of crap. Well done.
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whiskey jack



Joined: 30 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I found out today that my B.A., M.A. and 2 years university teaching experience (3 total years teaching in korea) wasn't enough to get an interview. Just curious to know if anyone here has gotten an interview and what qualifications they have. For peace of mind.

I have a B.A. with 2 years Hakwon experience, and I did get an interview for the Hongik campus in Jochiwon. The biggest selling point was my willingness to work in Jochiwon. I also had a lot of help from the_beaver. Without his help, I don��t think I would have been able to get the job.

If you are really interested in his methods, just read his posting here..

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=6586

Just listen to the guy, it works!
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It may not be.... but I loved the people I met at the interview... seems like a terrific staff. It's a university not far from Seoul... 6 stops from Seoul Station. 2,300,000 won a month starting salary, for 15 hours. Just about the whole vacation plan, although you have to work for one month of your choice... summer or winter vacation. One month severance pay at the conclusion. Free housing. I'd call that a terrific position.


Good good good. Congrats. That sounds great to me. Isn't 6 stops from Seoul Stn. still in Seoul no matter which way you go?
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
It doesn't mention severance pay.. or is it just a given they have it each year.

A two-year contract is interesting. What does that mean exactly? Are there two year work visas?



In regards to your second question, yes, yes there is. As mentioned in a post a month ago I got a two year E2 that expires in 2007 with a two year mutiple entry visa, both for the price of a one year. Since I plan for these to be my final years in Korea it all works out fine. Saves both time and money.
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ajstew



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: job Reply with quote

My bad... not six stops from Seoul Station, six stops from Sindorim. So not directly in Seoul.... but a good location.
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TheDonnasTurned21



Joined: 02 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:49 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Well, was in for the interview today and am glad to say I came out with a job. Anyone else here going to be working at Seoul campus? Hope to see you soon. I'll be the suspiciously young Irish git. Smile
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