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2 Cape Bretoners Arrested in Korea
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thorin



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:
thorin wrote:
Koreabound2004 wrote:
dogbert wrote:
On the other hand wrote:
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you know you could count on the daveseslcafe boys to let a thread like this consist of attacks against their own kind


Our own KIND? Jesus, that sounds like someone's 80 year old grandma, lecturing them on why they shouldn't marry outside the race.


I don't even have any idea where the hell this "Cape Breton" is.




Cape Breton is in Eastern Canada...part of the province of Nova Scotia. Smile


Cape Bretons make the best pets.



That dog is a Newfoundland.


"...and i would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids"

hmmmm. hmmmmmmmmm...

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HamuHamu



Joined: 01 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lemon wrote:

I'm somewhat surprised we haven't yet seen Ashley teaching at a Wonderland somewhere north of Seoul, given the state of his career.


Somewhat ironic, considering that one of the accused in question ALSO happens to work at a Wonderland in northern Seoul............... Shocked
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no, I wouldn't say it's ironic at all. I'd say it's pretty bang on. The further out of Seoul you go, the more desperate hagwon teachers you meet.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are these boys still in the Big House?
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poker player



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: On the river

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: fighting Reply with quote

jaderedux wrote:


Why should I feel beholden to help someone that did something stupid.

Jade


Nice attitude-that should put you in the running for humanitarian of the year award.
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poddubny



Joined: 03 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: fighting Reply with quote

poker player wrote:
jaderedux wrote:


Why should I feel beholden to help someone that did something stupid.

Jade


Nice attitude-that should put you in the running for humanitarian of the year award.


NOBODY CARES!!!
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: fighting Reply with quote

poker player wrote:
jaderedux wrote:


Why should I feel beholden to help someone that did something stupid.

Jade


Nice attitude-that should put you in the running for humanitarian of the year award.


Sorry but when you do something that could have been avoided because you can't control your drinking.....One gets no sympathy here.

Same for the whiners that get harsh sentences for smuggling drugs out other countries...if your that stupid you get what you deserve.

If you get robbed and beaten up ....I'm there with help.
If your island gets washed away in a Tsuanmi I will help.
If you need money to get home because your hogwan screwed you I might help then too.

If you get drunk and land in jail because you did something stupid. Nopies you are on your own. Good life lesson.

Jade the Heartless
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squat toilet



Joined: 08 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaderedux wrote:
Sorry but when you do something that could have been avoided because you can't control your drinking.....One gets no sympathy here.

Same for the whiners that get harsh sentences for smuggling drugs out other countries...if your that stupid you get what you deserve.

If you get robbed and beaten up ....I'm there with help.
If your island gets washed away in a Tsuanmi I will help.
If you need money to get home because your hogwan screwed you I might help then too.

If you get drunk and land in jail because you did something stupid. Nopies you are on your own. Good life lesson.

Jade the Heartless


What about someone who leaves their feline-piss soaked apartment a mess and forgets about paying their bills before skipping town?

Hypothetically speaking
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear they eat cats in Hong Kong.
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squat toilet wrote:
jaderedux wrote:
Sorry but when you do something that could have been avoided because you can't control your drinking.....One gets no sympathy here.

Same for the whiners that get harsh sentences for smuggling drugs out other countries...if your that stupid you get what you deserve.

If you get robbed and beaten up ....I'm there with help.
If your island gets washed away in a Tsuanmi I will help.
If you need money to get home because your hogwan screwed you I might help then too.

If you get drunk and land in jail because you did something stupid. Nopies you are on your own. Good life lesson.

Jade the Heartless


What about someone who leaves their feline-piss soaked apartment a mess and forgets about paying their bills before skipping town?

Hypothetically speaking


Yep fool me once........

I do not blame the cat.

Jade the really heartless
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poker player



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: On the river

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: fighting Reply with quote

poddubny wrote:


NOBODY CARES!!!


So does putting it in a 40 point red font make it true? I care-so therefore you are wrong.
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poddubny



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: fighting Reply with quote

poker player wrote:
poddubny wrote:


NOBODY CARES!!!


So does putting it in a 40 point red font make it true?


yes. now shut yer pie-hole, already.

nobody cares about a couple of drunkard newfies who got thrown in the korean clink. they were bound to end up in the slammer sometime, weren't they? life goes on. MOD EDIT
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poker player



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: fighting Reply with quote

poddubny wrote:


yes. now shut yer pie-hole, already.




ROTFLMAO-brilliant retort. Another tough keyboard warrior with his mouse in 1 hand and soju in the other.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaderedux wrote:
squat toilet wrote:
jaderedux wrote:
Sorry but when you do something that could have been avoided because you can't control your drinking.....One gets no sympathy here.

Same for the whiners that get harsh sentences for smuggling drugs out other countries...if your that stupid you get what you deserve.

If you get robbed and beaten up ....I'm there with help.
If your island gets washed away in a Tsuanmi I will help.
If you need money to get home because your hogwan screwed you I might help then too.

If you get drunk and land in jail because you did something stupid. Nopies you are on your own. Good life lesson.

Jade the Heartless


What about someone who leaves their feline-piss soaked apartment a mess and forgets about paying their bills before skipping town?

Hypothetically speaking


Yep fool me once........

I do not blame the cat.

Jade the really heartless


Next time some old fart cops a feel, I hope your hubby has enough stones to give him a forearm shiver. For your sake, not his.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fracas turns critical Korean eye on Tefl community

Liz Ford
Monday April 11, 2005

Two English language teachers from Canada are due to appear in court in South Korea tomorrow in connection with an incident outside a bar in Seoul in which a local man was hospitalised with facial injuries.

The arrests have added to an already tense situation for the country's foreign workers, after a disparaging television documentary and a salacious website posting sparked a backlash against EFL teachers.

Jason Beaton and Scott Thompson, from Nova Scotia, were arrested and jailed on March 11. It is unclear whether they have been charged.

Both had been working as English conversation teachers in a hagwon - a privately run college - just outside the city since 2003. One of the men is believed to have been working illegally on a tourist visa. The hagwon owner was understood to have been arrested after the incident, but was released without charge.

The men claim they were provoked, but provocation and self-defence are not recognised under Korean law. It is the person with the least number of injuries, or no injuries at all, that is charged with any crime.

To secure their release from jail, the men have to pay the victim compensation, or "blood money" as it is known locally, of $30,000 (£15,000). Family and friends have raised $15,000 (£7,500), but their lawyers hope to reach a compromise with the victim during tomorrow's court hearing. If the court agrees to release the men, they are likely to be deported.

The arrests have divided the Tefl community, which has begun to take a dim view of teachers working in the country illegally, and comes on the back of a documentary shown on Korean television last month that painted a picture of foreign teachers as unqualified and unprofessional. As a result, the authorities have begun investigating the authenticity of workers' qualifications and the practices of the hagwon owners who employ them. A number of teachers have since been deported and fines of up to $4,000 (£2,000) have been issued against employers.

The documentary was immediately condemned by EFL teachers as evidence of increasing government xenophobia against English teachers.

Further misery came with the discovery of an online forum on the EnglishSpectrum.com website discussing where foreign workers could go to meet Korean women. The posting brought a torrent of protest from locals and calls for street protests against foreigners. The site was temporarily shut down and those responsible for the posting were reportedly advised to leave the country for their own safety.

The Korean government is now preparing for a June crackdown on illegal workers, and on those hiring them.

However, Tom Davidson, a former lawyer who established the EFL-law.org website, which offers legal advice to teachers working in Asia, is not confident that much will change, although routing out illegal workers could create more opportunities for qualified teachers.

"They've been talking about this for the past seven years," said Mr Davidson. "The business is totally unregulated, that's the problem. Anyone can set up a school. The owner doesn't have to know anything about teaching, he just needs a licence. It's definitely an industry that needs a lot of work."

He added that teacher numbers in the country have dropped from 13,000 in 1997 to little over 5,000 in 2005 because of a tightening of immigration laws.

The future of the Tefl industry in Korea is due to be discussed at a conference organised by the Asian EFL Journal next month. The conference will include a session on legal issues, such as unfair dismissal, visas, labour law and criminal court procedures.

http://education.guardian.co.uk/tefl/story/0,5500,1457114,00.html
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