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[Bulsajo]

I wasn't joking when I said they're running PR campaigns to get people to think they're just friendly motorcycle riders and have outgrown their seedy and criminal past.
Meanwhile they're killing off all their biker and drug dealing rivals and building a network of bunker-like 'clubhouses'.
I'll look around and see if I can't find any of their ads on the net (I believe they've been sticking to highway billboards but am not current so can't say for sure).

Anyway, this is diverging pretty far from the main point of the thread.

I'd like to say that
A. I don't believe all the testimonies I've seen and read from people who were there, but
B. Using SWAT and Guard units armed with assault rifles to break up a party is without a doubt excessive use of force and unbelievably dangerous. What if some nervous guardsman accidentally let off a round?
The worst case scenario is just so obvious and a horrific that you have to wonder WTF was going through the heads of the guys who planned this raid.

[joe_doufu]

[ChimpumCallao]

[PaperTiger]

I love how disgruntled old farts like Joe Dofu and Bulsajo manage to confuse their blinkered view of current events as the truth. I bet it's a lot like when people were debating whether pre-Nazi Germany was going to hell in a handbasket...people like Joe Dofu were right there to deny every clue and and put a positive spin on their hero's actions rather than admit that it was not actually snowing, those were the ashes of other people falling from the sky.

"This is how urban legends spread. People like you copy and paste other people's articles without putting them in quotation marks, and then some of your contacts say they heard a first hand account, and their friends say they heard a first hand account, and so on."

"The sad thing is that I know you mean well and that emotional reactions to perceived unfairnesses are normal. If you really want to grow as a person and have debates that are more fitting to your age-bracket I suggest stepping back, reading more varied sources, and taking a chill pill. Then, perhaps you may be able to not sound like a 16 year old with a freshly pressed Che shirt."

"As an insult that may be too much for those, who like you, "dare to be different" you are the BIGGEST CLICHE i have ever come into contact with."

"Princess, you are truly a moron. You carry on with conversations that I was used to hearing in high school and MAYBE my freshman year of college. You are the prototypical raver hippy, who couldnt really back up any facts except that hatred for big coorporations and america is 'right' because all your other stoner loser hippy friends told you as thus. You are an immature alarmist who would not, even with myriad data staring you right in the face even consider a) that you may not be completely right about everything b) linking nike with darth vader may be just a teensy bit juvenile."


Dude, did you even click on her link to the other forum, or did you just decide she's a vapid moron because she's likes electronic music and enjoys dancing? More than twenty people all reported the SAME EVENTS on that board...is it hysteria? An urban legend? An urban legend isn't reported by dozens of different people as a direct experience, it gets told as "I knew a guy who knew a guy..."

Do you have Mommy and Daddy issues? Was your ex-girlfriend a liberal? Can you think about any of these issues without judging someone or calling them names? Where are your footnoted sources and newspaper citations? You really think a bunch of 15-year old kids on crappy reproductions of designer drugs deserve to have assault weapons jammed in their faces while an attack dog knaws on their nuts? Maybe you should move to a place where the political climate better suits your beliefs like North Korea, Jakarta, or Indonesia. If you're so in love with jackbooted fascism, go be a part of it...don't just fling poo on some namby-pamby teacher site...go crush skulls in real life. People like you are what people like Bush and Kim Jung Il build thriving autocracies on, don't just be a spectator.

Oh, and...you have the SAME JOB as Paperbag Princess old man, so don't get too high and mighty about how mature and informed your politics are because you sound as moronic as any stupid hippie I've met...you're just on the opposite side of the spectrum and just as willing to contemplate the validity of anything that doesn't substantiate your beliefs. God, old people suck so much, they get so high and mighty about their pet issues and think that anyone younger than them should sit and listen to them drone on and on. Sure buddy, everyone is a moron and only you are entitled to have subjective beliefs and make snap judgments.

Oh, well...dead dogs can't learn new tricks.

[thepeel]

[joe_doufu]

[PaperTiger]

It took me a little less than seven minutes to write it. Please be impressed, my entire sense of self rests upon your approval. Please like me and say I'm smart.

Sorry if you got lost, you might want to try reading it twice.

[Bulsajo]

[joe_doufu]

[Bulsajo]

It's funny that Paper Tiger Tiger is using age as an insult here. I have no idea how old s/he is, whether or not s/he is younger or older than me, and I certainly don't have any recollection of saying "You don't now nothin' cause you're just a young 'un, little grasshopper" but that could just be because of the Alzheimer's I suppose.

I suck at math but believe I'm a year older than you, Joe. Or 10 years. Good God! You might even be younger than PaperTiger!

Paper Tiger, you brought it up so how old are you exactly?

And why are you so self-conscious about it?
Someone giving you a hard time about premature baldness or something?

And what would satisfy you on this thread anyway?
If we said "Yes all cops are fascist pigs who would shoot children and babies if given the chance, ecstacy should be free and legal, and 'fight for your right to party' should have its own amendment in the constitution"?

[PaperTiger]

LOS ANGELES, November 9, 2004 - At 7:50 PM two armored tanks showed up at an anti-war protest in front of the federal building in Westwood. The tanks circled the block twice, the second time parking themselves in the street and directly in front of the area where most of the protesters were gathered. Enraged, some of the people attempted to block the tanks, but police quickly cleared the street. The people continued to protest the presence of the tanks, but about ten minutes the tanks drove off. It is unclear as to why the tanks were deployed to this location.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/11/10/134638/70

Still want to say it didn't happen? That doesn't alarm you?

Watch the video or do your own search if that site has too much of a taint of bias, it took me less than a minute to find six different links to this issue. Or perhaps your arthritis is too bad to do that much typing.

"And why are you so self-conscious about it?
Someone giving you a hard time about premature baldness or something?" -Bulsajo


I'm not self-conscious about my age at all, I think it's pretentious and idiotic for older people to cite someone's younger age as a reason for not having a valid opinion. It just comes off as some deep-seated ire directed at the hot young girls that are no longer an option for yJoe Dofu (perhaps they never were). I know you've been following this threat, Bulsajo (it's not like you were out raving)...so you must know that it Joe Tofu started hurling superlatives about young women and liberals. You just called her a moron...again, do you have a source to discredit Paperbag's "alarmist" statements. Is the sky falling or not?

PS-My hairline is advancing, not receding...I'm an evolutionary throwback!

"And what would satisfy you on this thread anyway?
If we said "Yes all cops are fascist pigs who would shoot children and babies if given the chance, ecstacy should be free and legal, and 'fight for your right to party' should have its own amendment in the constitution"?
-Bulsajo

I'd be satisfied if you clowns could just give a link or site a source that discredits people's points of view you disagree with rather than heaving excrement and invectives like you're some sort of primate. Leave that to me. Also, if you'd admit that some of my more pointed remarks were clever and well-concieved...that would be satisfying.

Allow me to quote myself. "I bet it's a lot like when people were debating whether pre-Nazi Germany was going to hell in a handbasket...people like Joe Dofu were right there to deny every clue and and put a positive spin on their hero's actions rather than admit that it was not actually snowing, those were the ashes of other people falling from the sky. " Since I like to hear myself talk, as many others do...you are morally obligated to admit...that was pretty sweet.

I'd love to quote myself more, but my coffee's getting cold. Ciao for now, Chairman Mao.

[Bulsajo]

[joe_doufu]

[PaperTiger]

Easy there Gramps, don't give yourself an aneurism. It's not my fault the link doesn't work. Don't try to extrapolate that into some sort of shortcoming on my part.

Younger than 64, huh? Well, sheeeit boy....you shoulda said so. The amniotic fluid's still dryin behind your ears I reckon.

I never said "you are a nationlist socialist", I implied you are a fascist. Almost the same, but not quite. Given your intellectual superiority you probably already learned that about 40 years ago. Qudos to yew, ya geriatric candy-flippin kid. Tew kewl.

I didn't say you killed JFK either, I implied you shot Warren G. Harding though, you wily fossil.

I bet you remember back during, prohibition, ratting out commies in the 50's, the 60's, and cocaine riddled 80's that people were using PLUR to get laid, it's not such a bad thing...especially if you felt like it was real, even for only a few hours.

Portland Chief of Police during my stay there was Mark Kroeker. I was wrong. Sorry, must have been all that cheap ecstasy I did chasing the three good trips I had on it. Ohmygod, did I just pile more wood on the fire poppa?

My age? I'm older than 8 and younger than 64. Difference is in four years you'll be 60 whereas I've got a little more than two decades to go. See? I can be forthcoming too. I love it when I'm magnanimous and you should too.

Mine's not a high horse, but I can still see you liver-spotted pate from where I sit. I don't know everything and sometimes I'm loopy as hell, but I don't criticise people for being young on one hand and then pout like a sullen little girl when someone points out how old I am. If someone takes on a big issue and they don't have the facts to back them up, you're not exactly taking the intellectual high ground by calling them a moron.

"I didn't say younger people don't have valid opinions. I said that young people, in mobs, on drugs, tend to make poor decisions. In fact mobs/crowds always make poor decisions, but when they're under 23, feel righteous and invincible, and are intoxicated, its worse."

You mean...like at Kent State, Woodstock, or any other place where jackbooted thugs were used without regard for public safety, because that's MY issue, not whether people are young or intoxicated. It's an example of excessive force that's indicative of how our liberties are crumbling. Hell, if being on drugs is what spurs people to call a spade a spade, then what the hell is wrong with so-called normal people?

[joe_doufu]