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[EFLtrainer]

[tomato]

Here's some good news from Kansas:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10153657/

[Wangja]

Is Kansas a red state ot a blue state?

I was especially taken with

[Ya-ta Boy]

[fiveeagles]

[hypnotist]

[quote="fiveeagles"]
Also the question remains: Will you go to Africa or not?

How can you justify people being healed of cancer, tumors and other incurable diseases?
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Tell me how I can scientifically judge that people are indeed cured of cancer, AIDS, etc, and then explain how we can exclude all other factors (placebo effect, improper diagnoses etc) and I'll consider it.

Alternatively, get someone to submit a paper on it to a peer-reviewed medical journal. Then we'll see.

[fiveeagles]

What about....

If someone has a tumor the size of a pumpkin on their body and it falls off?

If someone is emaciated and is dying of a disease and then becomes normal?

Someone who has cerebral palsy and becomes completely normal.

http://www.freshfire.ca/revival_reports.php

Take your pick! Do you have to be a scientist to recognize a miracle?

[hypnotist]

[EFLtrainer]

[fiveeagles]

[EFLtrainer]

[fiveeagles]

http://www.impactchristianbooks.com/products.asp?Submit=GO!&Author=bonnke

What part of this don't you understand?
During a dramatic journey to a hospital in Owerri, Nigeria, he lost all life signs and was later pronounced dead by two different medical staff in two different hospitals. The latter wrote a Medical report and commissioned the corpse to the mortuary.

If you actually bought the video, you would see the report of the doctor and the medical evidence. However, there is testimony from over 10 people regarding his resurrection. Do you know how many testimonies are needed to stand up in a court of law? It is 1! Do you not realize that testimony is evidence? Of course, there is a lot factors that then have to be added up. Like actually seeing if the testimony stands to be true by a court action. Still, it is enough to proceed with a case.

I have many friends who work with Freshfire. Name a report and i will try to get it for you. Problem is, that when thousands get healed. It's not likely they are going to keep a collection of every report.

Phone them up. Ask them for medical evidence.
http://www.freshfire.ca/revival_reports.php

Beyond this though, my wife was personally healed of breast cancer at a prayer service. She doesn't hang onto the report, because people will invariably argue with the credibility of it.

Such is the case with Heidi Baker. Like I have said before, people are healed of such amazing diseases and with such amazing frequency, you would have to be a fool not to give glory to Christ. However, there are medical reports and eye witnesses to such miraculous events. Such as the person who was dead and is now alive. Will you believe if you talk to that person? Will you believe if you talk to the doctor who will confirm his death? Why don't you call her ministry and see if you can get a medical report?

The thing is, God's glory isn't something that can be manipulated or controlled. God is outside of the universe and time. His glory is only road signs pointing towards a deeper relationship with Him. ID recognizes the supernatural and allows for the possibility of divine intervention. Fortunately, ID is only getting started and it will continue to grow in these future years. Great minds like William Dembski, Lee Strobel and others are stroking the fires of great minds for the future. You will see great young minds advance ID in the future, while macroevolution will continue to fall to its demise.

Wisdom is proved right by her fruit. What's your prediction?

[tomato]

I have seen evidence for Evolution in working with children.
Before reading my next message, I ask you to make four lists:

1. What are some items which are attractive to children and good for children?

2. What are some items which are unattractive to children and harmful to children?

3. What are some items which are attractive to children but harmful to children?

4. What are some items which are unattractive to children but good for children?

[tomato]

Now I invite you to compare your lists with mine:

1. What are some items which are attractive to children and good for children?

I list milk, juicy fruit, outdoor exercise, good friends, and healthy affection from adults.

2. What are some items which are unattractive to children and harmful to children?

I list sharp objects, wild animals, and anything else which is painful.

3. What are some items which are attractive to children but harmful to children?

I list junk food, excessive TV and video, and illegal drugs.

4. What are some items which are unattractive to children but good for children?

I list school work, bitter medicine, and penicillin shots.

If children were made in God's image, we would only have items listed under 1 and 2.
If children were conceived in Original Sin, we would only have items listed under 3 and 4.
If children were born as empty slates, we would not have any items listed at all.
So let's look for a pattern.
If your lists are like mine, most of the items listed under 1 and 2 are items which have been around for millions of years. Most of the items listed under 3 and 4, however, are modern inventions.
My contention, then, is that children are born for survival in the wilderness. Modern technology has advanced faster than Evolution.

Will Evolution ever catch up with technology? Probably not, because technology has already made it possible for people to survive who could not have survived in the wilderness.

[tomato]

In an earlier post on this thread, I gave this link as evidence that Kansas is not all Creationist:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10153657/

This article is about a course at the University of Kansas which presents Intelligent Design as mythological.

Maybe I bragged too soon.

The latest news is that the teacher of that course has resigned under pressure.