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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| My "*beep*" detector went off when I saw Taheri smiling at the White House late last year..........no honest journalist would so brazenly cuddle with the elite and sit in on their private meetings. He is a dupe, or has become one and his previous history of falsifications and out right fabrications make his commentary suspect. |
Of course you have no proof he is paid. what he writes is accurate and true.
those that criticise him are all tied to the left.
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I said loud and clear at the time, with Joo and others saying he was so "eminent" and an authority -- that he probably was a CIA OP or atleast a paid govt covert employee. I don't have proof but given his continued parading of "Iraq will all be good. It is a paradise" ............ he has lost all credibility. Please see wikipedia for a good overview of his "journalism" |
he has a good record . As you say go see Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri
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Amir Taheri has attended universities in Tehran, London, and Paris.
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Between 1972 and 1979, Taheri was executive editor-in-chief of Kayhan, Iran's main daily newspaper. He has also worked as editor-in-chief of "Jeune Afrique" and Middle East editor for the London Sunday Times, and has written for the Daily Times, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Daily Mail and other leading British publications.
He has been a columnist for the pan-Arab daily "Asharq Alawsat" and its sister publication Arab News along with International Herald Tribune, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Newsday, and The Washington Post. He was also an editorial writer for the German daily Die Welt and has written for Der Spiegel, Die Zeit and Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in Germany, La Repubblica in Italy, L'Express, Politique Internationale and Le Nouvel Observateur in France, and El Mundo in Spain. He is currently a contributor to the German weekly Focus, the National Review and the New York Post.
Taheri is a commentator for CNN and is frequently interviewed by other media including the BBC and the RFI. He has written several TV documentaries dealing with various issues of the Muslim world. He has interviewed many world leaders including Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, King Faisal, Mikhail Gorbachev, President Anwar Sadat, Chou En-lai, Indira Gandhi and Chancellor Helmut Kohl. He was also a member of the Board of Trustees of the Institute for International Political and Economic Studies (IIPES) and member of the Executive Board of the International Press Institute (IPI) from 1984 to 1992.
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Taheri has published nine books some of which have been translated into 20 languages. In 1988 Publishers Weekly in New York chose his study of Islamist terrorism, Holy Terror, as one of The "Best Books of The Year". Another of his books The Cauldron: The Middle East Behind The Headlines is used as a textbook in various colleges in Britain and Canada. He has also won several journalistic prize |
If someone in the left wing publication in the nation goes out and makes accusations well it is something to be taken with a grain of salt.
I mean if there is really something here why doesn't anyone else go along with it? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:16 am Post subject: |
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The oil companies could get into the hydrogen business. Besides there are many other business who would benefit from alternative energy.
Tell me General Electirc is involved in hydrogen technology. You think they would put their interests second to the oil companies?
You think congress would put the interests of Exxon Mobile ahead of General Electric or Archer Danials Midland?
YOu think the US government would put the interests of the oil companies ahead of the auto mobile industry?
Then there is the coal industry and the nuclear power industry you really think that the government cares more about the oil companies than them?
The US airline industry wants cheap fuel you think that congress would put the oil industry ahead of them?
It doesn't make sense.
Besides oil companies have invested a lot in alternative energy themselves. The oil companies are not evil or sinister they are not trying to screw the US over nor could they even if they wanted to. Besides Oil could be used for Hydrogen.
Nowadays US oil companies have a hard time keeping up with demand for oil. |
Thanks for answering the first question.
Yes, I do think the US government would put oil ahead of alternative energy. I know some oil companies are working on alteratives, that doesn't mean they are willing to put them ahead of the billions they make on oil and gas. It's just common sense.
Another (similar) example of this happening is back in the late 70's when someone I know had a patent for a process that filled potholes with garbage versus using concrete. The reason for doing this was not only because it was cheaper, but also lasted as long as using concrete.
I want you to take a guess who won?
Now guess which country owns the patent? (hint: It's not the US) |
You think General Electric and the US auto industry would stand for that?
How about Archer Daniels Midland? |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course you have no proof he is paid. what he writes is accurate and true. |
Let's get back to Taheri...........I can't believe any decent human being could agree with this guy and not yell/scream how fraudulently he allowed the myth of the yellow star of David in Iran to become reality!!!! He supplied gossip as fact and also sent it prior to publication to noted newspapers , think tanks who then sent it on to others to publish.....do I have to show you the headlines which are utter propaganda -- to show you how vile what he did is?????? What has our country come to, he should be locked up for years yet he walks around shaking the president's hand??????
I will not inform you of all the other factual errors and fabrications of the man and also how he is a paid lobbyist (as a Benador associate.). I will just reprint for you his latest essay on Iraq. I quote the last paragraph but go to the essay itself. It is proof , with all its fantasy and contorted facts that he is but a mouthpiece for the administration, Cheney et al....that he believes these words (it appears) is even worse......
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article.asp?aid=12106023_1
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| Is Iraq a quagmire, a disaster, a failure? Certainly not; none of the above. Of all the adjectives used by skeptics and critics to describe today�s Iraq, the only one that has a ring of truth is �messy.� Yes, the situation in Iraq today is messy. Births always are. Since when is that a reason to declare a baby unworthy of life? |
He should get the rasberry journalist of the year award.........he is a joke. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Let's get back to Taheri...........I can't believe any decent human being could agree with this guy and not yell/scream how fraudulently he allowed the myth of the yellow star of David in Iran to become reality!!!! He supplied gossip as fact and also sent it prior to publication to noted newspapers , think tanks who then sent it on to others to publish.....do I have to show you the headlines which are utter propaganda -- to show you how vile what he did is?????? What has our country come to, he should be locked up for years yet he walks around shaking the president's hand?????? |
Lets get back to him Iran was considering such a law.
What kind of regime would do so?
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I will not inform you of all the other factual errors and fabrications of the man and also how he is a paid lobbyist (as a Benador associate.). I will just reprint for you his latest essay on Iraq. I quote the last paragraph but go to the essay itself. It is proof , with all its fantasy and contorted facts that he is but a mouthpiece for the administration, Cheney et al....that he believes these words (it appears) is even worse......
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article.asp?aid=12106023_1 |
Paid by who?
Think it a think tank.
If you don't like the essay then it is probably right on the money.
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| Is Iraq a quagmire, a disaster, a failure? Certainly not; none of the above. Of all the adjectives used by skeptics and critics to describe today�s Iraq, the only one that has a ring of truth is �messy.� Yes, the situation in Iraq today is messy. Births always are. Since when is that a reason to declare a baby unworthy of life? |
An opinion. Saddam is gone and the Kurds are free. That is a start.
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| He should get the rasberry journalist of the year award.........he is a joke.[ |
if you don't like what he says then he is probably being accurate. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Iran: We supplied Zelzal-2 to Hizbullah
Everyone knows that Iran has been supplying weapons to Hezbollah, here they are openly declaring that they have provided Hezbollah with missles capable of striking almost anywhere in Israel.
I think it's easy to forget the significance of this at first glance: This is a country not just selling weapons to another country, this is a country providing missile weapon systems to a group not recognized as a legitmate militia by the Lebanese government, to a group which is under a UN resolution to be disarmed, a terrorist group. This is, to a real extent, every counter-terrorist expert's "doomsday scenario" right after "suitcase nuke", "dirty bomb", and "sarin in the subway".
Exaggeration? Possibly.
But you certainly wouldn't think so if you lived in Tel Aviv...
To draw a parallel, what do you think would be the American response if Cuba allowed, or was unable to prevent, Al Qaeda setting up missles capable hitting Washington on Cuban soil? |
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cerulean808
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: |
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TUM
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| If it is so sad, then stop doing it. |
Doing what? Like Joo posting Commentarymagazine type articles that are wall to wall lies? Where have I done that TUM?
Joo
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| By the way if you want to talk about extremism, then look at curel808 remember he opposes a two state solution |
Blatant lie and the rest.
Your not a born again christian by any chance are you Joo? It would explain your mendacity.
You've got nothing on Fisk. Your Taheri got busted. Just like your neo con 'journalist' Jimmy 'hotmilitarystuds4men' Guckert. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| And its the likes of Joo Rip, Gopher, Sundubuman, Junior, Kuros, TUM et al who sponge this kind of stuff up. |
Please show me where any one of these individuals, particularly me, cite Tahiri as evidence of Iran's foul play on this board. Link it.
I'm sorry, Cerulean, but your argument seems to be saying that because Tahiri is a fake, it means that Iran hasn't done bad things. I want to confirm that that is what you are arguing before I accuse you outright of channelling stupid. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:10 am Post subject: |
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[quote="cerulean808"]TUM
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| Blatant lie and the rest. |
what is your accepted solution? Why don't you let us know for the record.
It seems you don't t think Clinton's offer was enough even though it included 30 Billlion.
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Your not a born again christian by any chance are you Joo? It would explain your mendacity.
You've got nothing on Fisk. Your Taheri got busted. Just like your neo con 'journalist' Jimmy 'hotmilitarystuds4men' Guckert. |
Fisk one sided journalism , and what the NY Times said about his book.
Tahari not busted.
And the nation well take their reports w/ a grain of salt. |
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cerulean808
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| Tahari not busted. |
Yes he has been . Like your neo con 'journalist' Jimmy 'hotmilitarystuds4men' Guckert. Or are you going to claim Guckert is a god fearing man whose been set up by the left.
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| Why don't you let us know for the record. |
Whose this 'us' Joo your speaking for?
The NY Times has had more than its fair share of scandals. Has the Nation had any?
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Please show me where any one of these individuals, particularly me, cite Tahiri as evidence of Iran's foul play on this board. Link it.
I'm sorry, Cerulean, but your argument seems to be saying that because Tahiri is a fake, it means that Iran hasn't done bad things. |
I'm sorry, Kuros, but your assertion seems to be that I think you or your pals cited Taheri. He was the example to illustrate my argument that there was a concerted PR campaign to flood public debate with pro war propaganda whether that be lies, half truths or selective facts. This is what you parrot.
No kidding the Iran regime has done bad things, but then so has the US. But we're not meant to talk about that. No, that's antiamerican. Everyone knows that Bush and his cohorts represent goodness and are god blessed, and anyone they finger is the 'Evil Empire' just like in the movies. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| Yes he has been . Like your neo con 'journalist' Jimmy 'hotmilitarystuds4men' Guckert. Or are you going to claim Guckert is a god fearing man whose been set up by the left. |
The Nation is to be taken w / a grain of salt.
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| Whose this 'us' Joo your speaking for? |
As I said you oppose a two state solution it seems. Why would you not just go out and say it unless of course you were against it.
Whose the extemist?
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| The NY Times has had more than its fair share of scandals. Has the Nation had any? |
The nation is a left wing magazine most don't look to it as source of reliable unbiased information
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| I'm sorry, Kuros, but your assertion seems to be that I think you or your pals cited Taheri. He was the example to illustrate my argument that there was a concerted PR campaign to flood public debate with pro war propaganda whether that be lies, half truths or selective facts. This is what you parrot. |
Was Iran considering such a law or not.
Taheri is a good source you don't see the media running away from him. if there really was something to it then well someone other than the nation would follow up on it.
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| No kidding the Iran regime has done bad things, but then so has the US. But we're not meant to talk about that. No, that's antiamerican. Everyone knows that Bush and his cohorts represent goodness and are god blessed, and anyone they finger is the 'Evil Empire' just like in the movies.[/ |
Compare what each side fights for and what they would do in victory. And well the answer is clear. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: |
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No kidding the Iran regime has done bad things, but then so has the US. But we're not meant to talk about that. No, that's antiamerican. Everyone knows that Bush and his cohorts represent goodness and are god blessed, and anyone they finger is the 'Evil Empire' just like in the movies. |
My god man, is your head that far up your ass? Are you that out of touch with reality? More proof time travel exists. This time we've gone back to 2001 or 2002.
Saying the US gov't has done bad things=fair. Saying the Iranian "regime"= US government in bad things? Hopelessly naive. |
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Cerulean, what's your take on my post? The Iranians are openly declaring that they are providing long distance missle systems to a terrorist organization. No comment on that?
And accusing Kuros of 'parroting' anything is simply asinine, and if the word weren't currently verboten, I'd have to call you a jackass.
But it is, so I won't. |
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cerulean808
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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bucheon bum
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| Saying the US gov't has done bad things=fair. Saying the Iranian "regime"= US government in bad things? Hopelessly naive. |
So it isn't fair to mention the US track record of aggression? Your CIA organised the overthrow of a moderate democratic regime in Iran and replaced it with a brutal authoritarian one. Isn't that an act of war? The fundamentalists in turn overthrew the US installed regime, automatically making them a US enemy. Ever since the US has manouvered against Iran.
It would be great to see Iran have a moderate democratic regime one day, where religious fundamentalism was rendered inert ( I'd like to see religious fundamentalisim in the US sidelined from politics. ) It's not going to happen through US aggression and meddling in the Mid East in persuit of US interests or neocon ideology. In fact Iran is an eloquent example of fundamentalism energised by Western interference.
Thats why I'm not buying into the current US media beat up on Iran, priming the public for yet another act of aggression, just like Iraq. The Taheri scandal illustrates the lenghts the warhawks will go to achieve their goal, and how easily commercial media are manipulated.
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| The Iranians are openly declaring that they are providing long distance missle systems to a terrorist organization. No comment on that? |
No. Except to raise the question of who gets to call who a terrorist or terrorist organisation. What's the difference between a terrorist organisation and a resistance movement in your view Bulsajo?
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| Taheri is a good source |
Sure, like your pal Jimmy 'hotmilitarystuds4men' Gucker. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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bucheon bum
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| Saying the US gov't has done bad things=fair. Saying the Iranian "regime"= US government in bad things? Hopelessly naive. |
So it isn't fair to mention the US track record of aggression? Your CIA organised the overthrow of a moderate democratic regime in Iran and replaced it with a brutal authoritarian one. Isn't that an act of war? The fundamentalists in turn overthrew the US installed regime, automatically making them a US enemy. Ever since the US has manouvered against Iran.
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You did more than mention the US's history with Iran. You equated the US government with Iran's. Now let's compare the two shall we?
The Iranian gov't has:
1. Supported the takeover of the US Embassy by its own people
2. Provided funding and weapons to organization(s) that blew up the US Embassy and marine barracks, as well as have kidnapped and killed Americans (some of whom had few to no ties to the US gov't).
3. And just to make it clear Iran isn't just after the US and Israel, that same funding hurt Shia lebanese as well (AMAL)
4. Defied the international community and continued its nuke program
5. Called for the total destruction of Israel
The US gov't has:
1. Aided the overthrow of a crappy Prime Minister (I suggest you read up on the guy, he wasn't that gifted of a leader).
2. Supported a rather brutish dictator (ie the shah)
3. Placed economic sanctions on Iran after the embassy takeover.
4. Gave arms to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war (BUT also gave weapons to Iran ha ha)
So, let's see. The US gov't has not killed any Iranians nor supported any terrorist activities against Iran. Can't say the same about those grand ayatollahs and their behavior towards the US. |
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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What's the difference between a terrorist organisation and a resistance movement in your view Bulsajo?
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I understand that this can be difficult and controversial at times, but it's pretty easy in this case, don't you agree? |
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