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Oh-Ran-Ji
Joined: 25 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| I do believe you'll need to be more specific |
Is the following specific enough for you:
Drop the crap and drop the whining. (Take a look at your sig line while you are at it.)
I see no reason to spell it out. You are a college graduate (presumably).
If you continue to act like a child I will ask the rest of the mod team to agree to ban you. (It will take no more than 5 minutes to find posts that qualify you for this honor.)
Is that clear enough? |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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It was a serious question. He and Steve insult me, and many others, regularly with no epithets whatsoever. My sig is EXACTLY what I am talking about. You accept that, and upbraid me for such a disgusting remark stated by someone else?
Jesus...
I'll be happy to change my sig when an apology is made. |
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Oh-Ran-Ji
Joined: 25 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Obviously it was not clear enough for you.
Let me spell it out:
Personal attacks are going to be left back in Junior High where they came from. Who started it and who said what to whom in the past are not within my control. I can't change the past.
I CAN have a say about what is posted in the future because I have the delete function and you don't.
Let the past be the past and start a new day. Carry on with your debate and disagree all you want. Type in any insult you want, but before you hit 'Submit', back off and delete it yourself. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ...would you place neoconservative foreign policy more in the idealist or realist camps...? |
Do not focus so tightly on theoretical models and terms like "neoconservative," Gang ah jee. Useful tools, no more, no less. Not absolute categories, not mutually-exclusive, either. I think that your discipline leads you to think this way. But many see historical processes as unique and unpredictable -- and no theory could possibly explain all variables and their complex interactions.
That being said, most who predominantly think like realists, like me, do not recognize the W. Bush Administration's methodology and oppose its actions generally as misguided and destructive.
Have you heard what realists like Kissinger and Brzezinski have been saying? How about the armed forces through various retired generals? And what do you think the Baker Report and its message was all about, by the way...?
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Do not focus so tightly on theoretical models and terms like "neoconservative," Gang ah jee. Useful tools, no more, no less. Not absolute categories, not mutually-exclusive, either. I think that your discipline leads you to think this way. But many see historical processes as unique and unpredictable -- and not theory could possibly explain all variables and their complex interactions.
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Didn't I just say something to this effect the other day? I was only curious about your opinion on this because inject the terms of IR theory into many, if not most, discussions here. You seem very eager to identify yourself as a 'realist' and blast the naive excesses of the 'Wilsonian Idealists' at every given opportunity, no?
And 'my discipline'? Heh. If you'd like to discuss the applications of Vygotskyan psychology to language learning, or the state of research into instructed pragmatics acquisition, or the validity of the construct of spoken language used in TOEFL, etc, then 'my discipline' will be relevant. Otherwise, I'll keep on writing as a layman, thanks.
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That being said, most who predominantly think like realists, like me, do not recognize the W. Bush Administration's methodology and oppose its actions generally as misguided and destructive.
Have you heard what realists like Kissinger and Brzezinski have been saying? How about the armed forces through various retired generals? And what do you think the Baker Report and its message was all about, by the way...? |
Yes, I'm aware of the disconnect between realism and the neocons - I hear even Rice is returning to her 'realist roots'. But was wondering if this distancing has more to do with the failure of the policies rather than objections to the philosophical assumptions underpinning neoconservatism.
edit: just found Kenneth Anderson's blog. Answers a lot of questions I have about this stuff.
http://kennethandersonlawofwar.blogspot.com/search/label/realism |
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