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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| the eye wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| I guess I could say Caucasians (especially you useless idiot Canadians) are making up horror stories about Korea, right? All because they couldn't score with their middle school students? |
How did Canadians get dragged into THIS one? |
I was wondering the same.
Either way, I hope the guy from the OP is doing better. Arse whuppins are never fun... no mater why they come about. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: |
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A butt kicking-
In the US the police will investigate what happened, the FBI may be called in, and the media will cover it.
In Korea? You'll get a ticket for waking a police officer if you even try to report it.  |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
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I'm a Korean-American male, too, and frankly, I cannot believe the insensitivity of the people on this thread. There are STILL places in the United States where Asians will be called slurs on a daily basis. Some can let it go, some cannot, but it DOES happen, usually in the rural areas and the Deep South.
I went to school in a major metro area so name calling wasn't a problem, but I've heard MUCH differently from Asians who attended schools elsewhere.
So I guess only Koreans are racist and that places in North American could NEVER have people who use racial slurs? |
I think you'll find that a good number of whities here completely agree with your assessment. We all (non-idiots) know there are idiots back home and that sometimes it sucks to be Asian in America.
I think very few here would argue that it never happens. BUT, when someone who is a known tool on this board says it happened EVERY day... well, sounds a bit off. |
It did happen every day, and dude, please, I'm not gonna sit here and say most English teachers caused Koreans to attack them, so please, save your crap for some other thread. |
Give me a break about it having it everyday. Did you live in a small town in Mississippi? I have had Asian and black friends who didn't say things happened to them everyday, so your experience doesn't make sense. As far as those whites here who claim they deal with racism everyday in Korea, it is not my experience. It may happen often enough in Korea since Korea is like the South in some ways, but not everyday.
Hey, at least, the FBI would respond or something. Here they wouldn't give a rat's behind what happens to a foreigner, in general, not the people nor the authorities. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
10 Yankees and one Korean
He's finally on his own
He got called chink every day and
Paranoid in Ohio
Get real. |
Get mental help. |
I have a Palestinian American friend who studied in Ohio, and he had a blast. Granted, you might say he might have passed for an Italian because of his genes, but people knew he was, liked him, and he never told me he got harassed in Ohio. He wasn't in southern Ohio, if you want to claim you were there. I haven't heard people tell me Ohio is such a bad place except maybe in certain parts not far from the South. I just somehow doubt the story. I wouldn't doubt people get called chink or gook.
I heard someone use the word gook, and I told him not use that word.
He was from New York. He was upset with this guy and said he was a gook, but he didn't say it to his face. This same guy, though was nice overall and had friends from different countries. It isn't a perfect world, that is why I tolerate Korea and think it's okay. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| Newbie wrote: |
| peter07 wrote: |
I'm a Korean-American male, too, and frankly, I cannot believe the insensitivity of the people on this thread. There are STILL places in the United States where Asians will be called slurs on a daily basis. Some can let it go, some cannot, but it DOES happen, usually in the rural areas and the Deep South.
I went to school in a major metro area so name calling wasn't a problem, but I've heard MUCH differently from Asians who attended schools elsewhere.
So I guess only Koreans are racist and that places in North American could NEVER have people who use racial slurs? |
I think you'll find that a good number of whities here completely agree with your assessment. We all (non-idiots) know there are idiots back home and that sometimes it sucks to be Asian in America.
I think very few here would argue that it never happens. BUT, when someone who is a known tool on this board says it happened EVERY day... well, sounds a bit off. |
It did happen every day, and dude, please, I'm not gonna sit here and say most English teachers caused Koreans to attack them, so please, save your crap for some other thread. |
Give me a break about it having it everyday. Did you live in a small town in Mississippi? I have had Asian and black friends who didn't say things happened to them everyday, so your experience doesn't make sense. As far as those whites here who claim they deal with racism everyday in Korea, it is not my experience. It may happen often enough in Korea since Korea is like the South in some ways, but not everyday.
Hey, at least, the FBI would respond or something. Here they wouldn't give a rat's behind what happens to a foreigner, in general, not the people nor the authorities. |
It did happen, as I was there and experienced it. At times, I didn't feel like leaving my dorm as I knew a car would pass by on the street with a bunch of frat boys yelling "Chink, go back to your country." Mind you, this was back in 1988-89, so perhaps Ohio Univ. has changed since then, but I do distinctly remember this happening. Or passing by an apartment complex on campus and having some guy yell, "Hey, some Chinese f!cker is walking by," and then start trying to mimick the Chinese language.
But according to your logic, if the Asians that only YOU meet didn't experience this, this must mean no other Asians did, right? Sort of like I meet a foreign guy who loves Korea and has no bad experiences, and then I infer that all foreign experiences are like his, right? |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Yaya i believe you.
Most of my Asian friends older relatives that went to school in the 70's and 80's say similar things. In Calgary, Canada, the 1990's is when you see the large influx of Asian immigrant's kids entering Middle school. So, the racism started to become more and more subtle at that time. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| peter07 wrote: |
I'm a Korean-American male, too, and frankly, I cannot believe the insensitivity of the people on this thread. There are STILL places in the United States where Asians will be called slurs on a daily basis. Some can let it go, some cannot, but it DOES happen, usually in the rural areas and the Deep South.
I went to school in a major metro area so name calling wasn't a problem, but I've heard MUCH differently from Asians who attended schools elsewhere.
So I guess only Koreans are racist and that places in North American could NEVER have people who use racial slurs? |
I am Chinese - and frankly, if people call me a chink, I will probably retort back by calling them something.
I am raised pretty much in the UK and not once had I experienced any racism while I was there - not sure if it's because people in the UK are more open-minded or if it's because I am of the female persuasion or what...
It bothers me, though, that people ACCEPT being called names - why can't you stand up for yourself and just call them names back?! |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| tzechuk wrote: |
[I am Chinese - and frankly, if people call me a chink, I will probably retort back by calling them something.
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Sorry if it is really offensive. It seems like a joke word to me. If any of my friends used that term while we were growing up in Boston, it would most certainly have been in the context of some (probably lame) joke. It seems like a very 1985 no-nothing snapperhead term to me. I never heard it said with real anger or hatred. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| tzechuk wrote: |
[I am Chinese - and frankly, if people call me a chink, I will probably retort back by calling them something.
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Sorry if it is really offensive. It seems like a joke word to me. If any of my friends used that term while we were growing up in Boston, it would most certainly have been in the context of some (probably lame) joke. It seems like a very 1985 no-nothing snapperhead term to me. I never heard it said with real anger or hatred. |
My point exactly! My best friend (white, English) and I have names for each other and hers for me in ching-lings and mine for her is chubby-bear (she is not fat but it's something slightly insulting..lol).
Did I ever think that she was being racist? I certainly didn't think so and I still don't now - we've known each other for over 20 years and despite the distance, we are still best friends. She just got married this last week, eloped to Mexico, so I didn't bother going home for the wedding but I phoned her up at her hotel and we chatted for an hour!
I just think that if people stop labelling things, we will all get on a lot better. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| tzechuk wrote: |
| peter07 wrote: |
I'm a Korean-American male, too, and frankly, I cannot believe the insensitivity of the people on this thread. There are STILL places in the United States where Asians will be called slurs on a daily basis. Some can let it go, some cannot, but it DOES happen, usually in the rural areas and the Deep South.
I went to school in a major metro area so name calling wasn't a problem, but I've heard MUCH differently from Asians who attended schools elsewhere.
So I guess only Koreans are racist and that places in North American could NEVER have people who use racial slurs? |
I am Chinese - and frankly, if people call me a chink, I will probably retort back by calling them something.
I am raised pretty much in the UK and not once had I experienced any racism while I was there - not sure if it's because people in the UK are more open-minded or if it's because I am of the female persuasion or what...
It bothers me, though, that people ACCEPT being called names - why can't you stand up for yourself and just call them names back?! |
I did confront a few of them, but it got so commonplace that I learned to know when to ignore it and when to confront it. Like I said, it happened on a daily basis, and sometimes you simply have no time or mind to respond to every piece of trailer trash that calls you something.
I also heard of a Korean student who was expelled from Ohio Univ. because he kept fighting guys who would call him a slur. Shows you how "open" that university was at the time. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yaya:
I've also heard lots of things. Most were lies. Like your being called a slur every day. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Yaya:
I've also heard lots of things. Most were lies. Like your being called a slur every day. |
Typical of people who gripe about their experiences in Korea, and then call people who've had similar experiences in the West liars. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
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Yaya:
I've also heard lots of things. Most were lies. Like your being called a slur every day. |
Typical of people who gripe about their experiences in Korea, and then call people who've had similar experiences in the West liars. |
Shall I tear apart your reply, or are you happy being thought of merely as a liar and not a idiot too?
As a hint, I'm going to focus heavily on two elements: 1) Every day and 2) Proportion.
By the by, I'm still waiting for the backlash. I do hope that it will resemble the one in Korea against whites and GI looking Blacks after the Hummer accidentally hit two schoolgirls, or I might have to call Korean culture for what it really is. I'll give it two months before creating a mega post of epic proportions comparing the two situations.
That is what is so interesting about this. We have a comparative experiment between the two cultures right now. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| BJWD wrote: |
Yaya:
I've also heard lots of things. Most were lies. Like your being called a slur every day. |
Typical of people who gripe about their experiences in Korea, and then call people who've had similar experiences in the West liars. |
Shall I tear apart your reply, or are you happy being thought of merely as a liar and not a idiot too?
As a hint, I'm going to focus heavily on two elements: 1) Every day and 2) Proportion.
By the by, I'm still waiting for the backlash. I do hope that it will resemble the one in Korea against whites and GI looking Blacks after the Hummer accidentally hit two schoolgirls, or I might have to call Korean culture for what it really is. I'll give it two months before creating a mega post of epic proportions comparing the two situations.
That is what is so interesting about this. We have a comparative experiment between the two cultures right now. |
I said I was called a chink or other slurs, I never said it happened to all other Asians. And well, it did happen but feel free to stay ignorant, stupid. It's pretty obvious you hate Korea and Koreans, so please, if you're still here, do both sides a favor and leave. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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Sorry. I just don't believe you. I'm quite sure you heard slurs in the USA. I've been called racist slurs in the USA and Canada (and I'm white) but it is your use of "every day" that makes me call LIAR. If you want to take that back and be more honest, I will adjust my posts accordingly.
I've left korea. I don't hate korea or Koreans. But I have major problems with korean culture. And I have a really huge big major problem when koreans run around talking about a backlash (which is just racist talk about whites/blacks etc) when it is they who reacted in a racist manner towards an accident. People who live in a big glass racist country shouldn't throw stones.
Koreans are afraid that we would react as would (and have) they. And that says more than any faux experience you can ever claim to have had. |
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