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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| The guy was a loser who killed his wife and son and then hanged himself. What's respectable about that? That is what turns me off about Americans. All many of them care about is sports. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Now that's surprising because he never seemed the type. |
That's what people always say, and usually it's the ones people look up to the mosgt and think are so nice and great and wonderful that do things like this. Guess he's not so wonderufl after all. Not to mention, wrestling is violence plain and simple. Doesn't surprise me a bit. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
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Holy crap!
I don't think this is another druggie wrestler story. His whole family is dead.
Pity, he was one of my faves to watch |
He really was one of the good guys. RIP |
After what he did, if he was a good guy, I'd hate to see a bad guy.  |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Princess, he was Canadian, and some of his biggest fans are/were Canadians, too, so the tired anti-American crap is out of place here. |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
| Princess, he was Canadian, and some of his biggest fans are/were Canadians, too, so the tired anti-American crap is out of place here. |
And never mind the fact that you took quotes from the BEGINNING of the thread before people knew what Benoit had done.
Not classy, Princess  |
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SMKOREA

Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| nobody cares if anyone here has met him. |
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Dan The Chainsawman

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: |
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As an American let me say that it is a tragedy when this sort of thing happens in any corner of the world. I fail to see the point of attaching any sort of nationality onto the incident. Chris Beniot being a Canadian has nothing to do with his decision to kill his wife and child.
Sad day in any part of the world when a child dies at the hands of his own father. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: |
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I think at least part of the problem is the tendency of intensely competitive athletes to put too much importance on extraordinary physical body development to the point of chemical dependency - and accompanying mental illness...
Reportedly, Benoit (and his wife...) couldn't handle the fact that their young son was so undersized as to border on "dwarfism"...
I'm sure the kid would have preferred life as a dwarf rather than death at the hands of his mentally warped father... |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Chris Benoit joins a long long list of wrestlers who die young and in a tragic fashion
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6964262?MSNHPHMA
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The prescription anabolic steroids found at Benoit's home have long been known to contribute to paranoia, depression and the violent outbursts we've come to know as "roid rage." Couple that with the near-compulsory painkillers a wrestler must take to do his job effectively after enduring countless body slams and you have a cocktail for massive, mind-altering mood swings.
The Benoit story is the latest and most tragic installment in an ongoing saga that the men who get rich promoting professional wrestling would prefer their fans didn't know too much about.
Vince McMahon wants you to think about the stars of today and tomorrow, not the cemetery of steroid-fueled bodies his "sport" has helped put in the ground. But on the grim occasion of the deaths of Nancy and Daniel and Chris Benoit, let's remember some of the other pro wrestlers who died before their time.
# Ravishing Rick Rude � Died at 40 of an apparent heart attack in 1999, a bottle of prescription pills for his bad back at his side. The autopsy report said he died of "mixed medications." Rude was an admitted user of anabolic steroids.
# Louis Mucciolo, a.k.a, Louie Spicolli � Died in 1998 at age 27 when he suffocated on his own vomit after ingesting massive amounts of Soma and alcohol. Investigators also found an empty vial of testosterone, pain pills and an anti-anxiety drug at the scene.
# Brian Pillman � An admitted user of steroids, he died of a heart attack at age 35 in 1997 on the morning of WWF's In Your House: Badd Blood pay-per-view event.
# Rick "the Renegade" Williams � Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at age 33 after being released from his World Championship Wrestling contract in 1999.
# "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig � Found dead of a cocaine overdose at age 44 in his motel room on April 10, 2003, the morning of a match. Hennig's father maintained that steroids and painkillers contributed to his death.
# Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoa'i � Died of a heart attack in 2002 at 34.
# Davey Boy Smith, "The British Bulldog" � Died of a heart attack at age 39 on May 17, 2002. An autopsy report indicated that past steroid use had likely played a part in his death.
# Michael "Road Warrior Hawk" Hegstrand � An admitted steroid user, he died of a heart attack at age 46 in 2003.
# Michael Lockwood, "Crash Holly" � In 2003, at the age of 32, he choked to death on his own vomit after ingesting 90 painkiller pills.
# Jerry Tuite, "The Wall" a.k.a. "Malice" � Died at age 36 in 2003 of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room.
# Raymond "Hercules" Hernandez � Dead of heart failure in 2004 at age 47.
# Ray "The Big Boss Man" Traylor � Found dead of a heart attack in 2004 at age 42.
# Eddie Guerrero � After a long battle with painkillers, he was found dead of a heart attack by his nephew in his hotel room at age 38. The first person his nephew reportedly called was Guerrero's best friend, Chris Benoit.
# Chris Candido � Died in 2005 at age 33 from a blood clot after breaking his tibia and fibula and dislocating his ankle in a pay-per-view event.
# Owen Hart � Fell to his death at age 34 in 1999 when the rigging that was lowering him into the ring malfunctioned.
And then there's the story of the Von Erich wrestling family.
Wrestling patriarch Fritz Von Erich, nee Jack Adkisson, had five wrestling sons: Kevin, David, Kerry, Mike and Chris.
David died in a hotel room in Tokyo at the age of 25 in 1984 just as he was embarking on a three-week pro wrestling tour of Japan. The official cause of death was acute enteritis, severe inflammation of the intestines.
Three years later, Mike committed suicide by overdosing on the tranquilizer Placidyl at the age of 23. After David's death, Mike had suffered a series of setbacks including a serious shoulder injury that had left him severely depressed.
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Devastated by the deaths of his older brothers and frustrated by his own limitations as a wrestler, the youngest and smallest brother, Chris, shot himself to death at the age of 21 in 1991.
Two years later, Kerry, who had battled a long addiction to painkillers, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 33, leaving eldest brother Kevin as the only survivor of the sport that had defined his family.
And now Chris Benoit, his wife and son have been added to the long, unbearably sad list of victims claimed, in part, by the brutal chemical calculus that is professional wrestling.
There is no arguing that the physical capabilities of these massive men can provide awesome theater. When Hulk Hogan lifted the 500-pound Andre the Giant and dropped him to the canvas, it was legitimately hugely thrilling.
But keep in mind there is a price these impossibly engorged specimens are paying for your entertainment.
And the price for many of them is their very lives. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| The guy was a loser who killed his wife and son and then hanged himself. What's respectable about that? That is what turns me off about Americans. All many of them care about is sports. |
princess, your world is getting back to normalcy and respectability-Paris Hilton is being interviewd live by Larry King in 4.5 hours. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| SMKOREA wrote: |
| nobody cares if anyone here has met him. |
It's called personal perspective on the guy. |
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stevieg4ever

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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WWE have blood on their hands. Somebody has to realise that this is not not normal of these wrestlers to be dropping like this. But they have made 2 very bad oversights in this case imo.
1) establishing already that roids arent part of the episode before concrete scientific evidence has been confirmed.
2) airing a 'tribute' show to someone who could quite potentially be a murderer.
all this set against the rather bizzare backdrop of mcmahon's staged death.
This confirms what bret said in 97 that wwe has become smut television. if you didnt think they couldnt get any lower after the guerrero episode then look again. talent wise the roster is pretty weak these days, their lead man is booed from state to state (and in england and italy too) and the angles and storeylines are poor.
1 thing. im not sure what gets aired in korea but in the uk the flagship shows are two hours with one accounted for by adverts (tey have been advertising the surviivor series tour since MAY!!! WTF). these are truly desperate days in wwe.
bit of a long ramble that sorry. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, the WWE had some good storylines and angles for much of the past year, and they peaked at the last "Wrestlemania", which was a big success worldwide...
Their main problems lately have been injuries - and deaths - to key performers and the cloud of suspicion that they're mostly related to drug abuse.
This most recent news release highlights another negative aspect of heavy steroid use: depletion of testosterone levels (and likely decrease in *beep* size...) which are often treated with testosterone supplements (or infections...)
My guess is that Benoit also was adversely affected by the extra testosterone prescribed for him by his personal physician...
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6961328?MSNHPHMA
...Benoit had been under the care of Dr. Phil Astin, a longtime friend, for treatment of low testosterone levels. Astin said the condition likely originated from previous steroid use.
Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed the day of their meeting.
"He was in my office on Friday to stop by just to see my staff," Astin said. "He certainly didn't show any signs of any distress or rage or anything."
"I'm still very surprised and shocked, especially with his child Daniel involved," Astin said. "He worshipped his child."
District Attorney Scott Ballard said the autopsy indicated that there were no bruise marks on the child's neck, so authorities are now assuming he could have been killed using a choke hold. "It's a process of elimination," he said... |
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aarontendo

Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Location: Daegu-ish
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard he killed em both with the crossfaced crippler |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| aarontendo wrote: |
| I heard he killed em both with the crossfaced crippler |
Woman should've tapped. |
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