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maximmm
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LOTS of stuff happened since the last time I posted on this thread.
A lot of it is quite surreal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/11/26/canada-united-nations-nazism-resolution_n_6228152.html
About two months ago - Russia proposed an anti-Nazism bill in UN. EU abstained from voting, most of the other countries voted for the bill, and the ONLY 3 countries that voted against it were Ukraine, US and Canada.
That was the day when the creation of the holy trinity that is USA, Canada and Ukraine became official. This trinity remains strong.
USA is now considering sending weapons to Ukraine.
Canada intends to send military experts to train Ukrainian army - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBr1rj1sJGo
EU wants none of this crap and is loudly speaking out against arming Ukraine - (though I have major doubts here - EU is on a tight leash, so I doubt that EU will stop supporting US regardless of what it may choose to do).
Still, if the UN vote is any indication, as much as US may want to isolate Russia, one has to wonder at this stage if this will lead to a major backlash - where it's the holy trinity that will be isolated and not Russia. US to tread carefully from here on out.
Meanwhile, things are slowly but surely happening in Ukraine.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/06/when-ukrainians-choose-not-to-die-in-a-war/
Now that volunteers are all busy at war - the meat market is running out of fresh meat, thus people are now being forcefully put into the meat grinder by the Ukrainian gov. People are slowly realizing to that fact and are starting to speak out against it. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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From Dar Spiegel (via google translate):
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/victoria-nuland-barack-obamas-problem-diplomatin-a-1017614.html
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Victoria Nuland is in Washington in front of a video screen azure of the Brookings Institution and want to say a few basic sentences with Ukraine crisis. "We have to help Ukraine to stop the blood loss," she says. Even with deadly weapons? Nuland speaks of "defensive" measures and makes just before it stop, to press for the delivery of heavy weapons to the government in Kiev.
Nuland has a very direct way, you can focus on entertaining, but also be undiplomatic -. For a diplomat are the dangerous properties.
The 53-year-old is the European representative of the US government, it is the United States by the Ukraine crisis lead and the problems with Russian President Vladimir Putin solve. But in the crisis Nuland has itself become a problem.
Last Friday, the American delegation at their gave Munich Security Conference an internal briefing. She sat on the sixth floor of the Hotel Bayerischer Hof in the room were perhaps two dozen US diplomats and senators. Especially the German Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen had spoken publicly of arms sales could act as an accelerant in eastern Ukraine. The Americans were angry.
Nuland said to have given the line: "We can fight the Europeans, rhetorical fight them," she said, according to the newspaper "Bild".
The journey of the Chancellor to Russian President Vladimir Putin called Nuland, the report says, "Merkel Moscow stuff." The atmosphere heated up, one of the senators to about von der Leyen have blasphemed ("defeatism-Minister"), the term "bullshit Moscow "Europeans probably also fell.
The top diplomat Nuland is considered conservative. In the case of an election victory of the Republicans in the coming year it will be considered a potential new Foreign Minister. She is married to Robert Kagan, a conservative thinker. He published last year a text, why America must remain the undisputed leading power in the world.
In Ukraine crisis Nuland is considered hardliner and follower of arms sales - unlike their President Barack Obama has a clear opinion on what needs to be done.
Luck and mortgage for Obama
Nuland was on the US embassies in Moscow and Beijing, as a diplomat in NATO, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman in Washington. But no country fascinates as Russia. They love this country, she once said. Speaks Russian fluently Nuland. As the "most important reminder of her career" is the top diplomat day in August 1991, when it cooperated with 250,000 people in front of the Kremlin in Moscow confessed "and said no to the counter-revolution". Victoria Nuland has therefore also made the fight against the forces of darkness in the former Russian Empire in the center of their career.
It is therefore a godsend and a mortgage at the same time for Obama. She made headlines after the Munich Security Conference last year. At that time she flew from Munich to Prague and Cyprus to Kiev, and on the way she called Geoffrey Pyatt, the American ambassador to Ukraine. Nuland renounced specific safety procedures and using her normal mobile phone. So the conversation was unencrypted.
On the evening of February 4, 2014 appeared on YouTube on a recording or four minutes and eleven seconds. The conversation between the two top diplomats gave a rare glimpse into the world of American diplomacy. At the end of the call Nuland said on a proposal by the US government, which was to outmaneuver the hesitant Europeans and she made famous . Shortly before she had spoken with the United Nations, the United Nations should engage in Ukraine and send a messenger to the EU would not have much to say. "That would be great, I think, to help things move, the UN would move things," Nuland said and added: ". *beep* the EU"
"Absolutely unacceptable" were the words that the Chancellor was then align - an unusually sharp reaction. In the days that followed Nuland had to apologize. As a token of apology, she appeared in the next round with a homemade Buttons ". I love the EU"
Now, for the second time derogatory statements Nuland leaked that were not meant for the public. The Germans were irritated, finally, the American Merkel's initiative to defuse crisis in Ukraine praised at the meeting with German ministers.
The day after the report in the newspaper "Bild" Nuland wanted nothing more to do with the statements then. Rather, she was a fan of diplomacy initiative of the German Chancellor. "In the public and internally all of us, myself included, whose diplomatic support," she said of the US newspaper "Wall Street Journal", "and we have worked side by side with them." |
What's really frustating is that the sole English site that has reported on the meeting is:
https://larouchepac.com/20150217/der-spiegel-crisis-nuland-herself-has-become-problem
Larouche.
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Germany's Der Spiegel on Feb. 15 attacked Victoria Nuland, President Obama's Nazi-loving representative for Europe, as "America's Riot Diplomat" — the sobriquet can mean both that Nuland acts disruptively, and that she creates riots (as on the Maidan in Ukraine). The "Politics" column states that Nuland poses a threat to America's allies, and that while she is supposed to solve the crisis of Ukraine and relations with Russia, "In the crisis, Nuland herself has become the problem."
Der Spiegel described a closed-door meeting, apparently reported on anonymously both to it and to the Bild newspaper, held by Assistant Secretary of State Nuland at the Munich Security Conference one week ago, with "perhaps two dozen U.S. diplomats and Senators." There Nuland gave instructions to "fight against the Europeans" on the issue of arming Ukraine to fight Russia. She was described as "bitterly" referring to the German Chancellor's and French President Hollande's meeting with Russian President Putin as "Merkel's Moscow junk," and "Moscow bullshit," and she welcomed a Senator's calling German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen the "Defeatism Minister." |
Another Kagan, another warmonger.
Americans and other English speaking people have no idea what is going on in Europe. |
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