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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Americans have a very difficult time dealing with ideas that fall outside of very tightly defined goalposts of acceptable discourse.


Hmmmmmm...what's that word I'm looking for?

Main Entry: smug

1 : trim or smart in dress : spruce [Ummm...no, that isn't it.]
2 : scrupulously clean, neat, or correct : tidy [No, that wasn't what I had in mind.]
3 : highly self-satisfied [A-ha! This is it. Yes.]
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that we don't have the FULL story yet is in no way shape or form an indication that the official version holds any water. We don't have to have the full details of the story to know, conclusively, that more than one shot was fired, and that Oswald was not the only that fired shots.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Manner of Speaking wrote:
There seems to have been a significant amount of manipulation of physical evidence by conspiracy theorists concerning the JFK assassination over the years, not the least of which concerns the nature of the ballistics forensic evidence. For example, there is this graphic which purports to show the trajectory of the first bullet which struck Kennedy:







Shame on you MOS for posting this outright distortion of the truth that you obtained from the McAdam's website.


The Warren Commission never committed itself as to which bullet allegedly "went through" Kennedy and then hit Connelly in several places on his body. So one can not say "the first bullet" as it has not been established. Incredibly , Connelly himself states that the first bullet fired did not hit him, but the Warren Commission ignored that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MTxMl7jUPo

More importantly, instead of using the true location of the entrance wound in Kennedy's back (approximately four inches below the shoulder),





McAdams and others arbitrarily raise it three inches in order to arrive at a trajectory consistent with the sixth-floor window. They also compute the angle of the wound as twenty-one degrees downward. This was nothing less than a blatant distortion of the medical evidence, which was an attempt prove that the bullet entered the president's back at a "slightly upward" angle.

The diagram stands as an accurate representation of the big lie called the Magic Bullet Theory.





The SBT is too ridiculous to even take seriously since you would have to believe that it is common for a bullet to do it's dirty work and end up unscathed.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEiyYLW3BzY


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yeah...the guys "guarding" Oswald did a splendid job too...that photo of him getting plugged by Ruby and the expression on their faces ...like wtf? ...complete with cowboy hats....classic! (ok they were just Dallas cops but still...) but seriously...what does a "secret service agent " really do...except wear cool shdes and look tough like david caruso on miami csi...you've had several attempts on president's lives since Kennedy...e.g. Ford and Reagan but to my knowledge a secret servicman has never died or been injured in preventing such an event from taking place....
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but to my knowledge a secret servicman has never died or been injured in preventing such an event from taking place....


Not true. President Bartlett's daughter's Secret Service agent was killed on The West Wing. I think that was around Season 4.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my apologies...I missed that episode...he was perhaps your greatest president...
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he was perhaps your greatest president...


I agree he was one of our greatest. I was concerned when he hid his health problem from us--that just wasn't kosher. I was disturbed when he had that guy from Kumari whacked at that airstrip in Bermuda, but it did show decisiveness and I do respect that. I think his greatest act was probably when he appointed CJ to be the first female Chief of Staff. It might even be his legacy.

I think the Republic really misses Jed.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How the CIA Hides Its Involvement in the JFK Assassination

Part Two

In Part One, Carl Bernstein�s The CIA and the Media, we saw that there was no ambiguity: the means of communication, the ruling-class method by which information is provided, the corporate media are a propaganda arm of the CIA.

This was preceded by a very important article by Harrison Salisbury, �Gentlemen Killers of the CIA� in the May 1975 issue of Penthouse Magazine. Salisbury makes clear his role of meeting with Allen Dulles and other CIA officials and the imparting of information. Bernstein�s article (Part One of this series) goes more into detail about the role of reporters as covert agents.

In Joan Mellen�s A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK�s Assassination, and the Case that Should Have Changed History, she documents the disinformation campaign against Jim Garrison that had been orchestrated by Robert Kennedy and the FBI. This disinformation campaign about the critics of the official fiction of the JFK assassination is continuing to this day with attacks on A Farewell to Justice and the publication of Ultimate Sacrifice by Lamar Waldren and Tom Hartman, published by Carolyn Graff, publisher of many JFK assassination books, a campaign getting much press attention and obscuring, hiding, and transforming the role of the CIA in the JFK assassination.

In the Watergate case, Carl Bernstein was fed a lot of information by covert source �Deep Throat.� As Mellen documents, he was one of the primary people trying to destroy the reputation of Jim Garrison and hide the work he was doing in revealing the role of the CIA in the assassination. She writes, �The decades-long campaign to silence Jim Garrison included the participation even of Deep Throat himself. Hardly interested in the truth, as those who laud him for providing guidance to Bob Woodward would suggest, on the matter of the JFK assassination, he is revealed in documents to have been an open enemy of free inquiry, no less than a convicted felon specializing in FBI black bag jobs. W. Mark Phelps was among those in the government attempting to sabotage Jim Garrison�s investigation. An FBI document of March 2, 1967, the day after Jim Garrison arrested Clay Shaw, has an investigator named H.L. Edwards reporting to Phelps on scurrilous rumors that might be employed to undermine Garrison and his investigation.�

The equivalent of Walter Cronkite of CBS was Harrison J. Salisbury of the New York Times. Chief foreign correspondent, winner of the Pulitzer Prize, he was considered an impeccable ruling-class figure of great journalistic esteem. He approached the Bertrand Russell Foundation with regard to the question of US mainstream journalists gaining access to Hanoi at the time of the saturation bombing there. The Foundation had been asked by the Vietnamese to clear those journalists who we estimated could provide some kind of indication of what the Foundation was documenting in the War Crimes Tribunal at the time. There were a number of meetings with Salisbury and it was clear that, reflecting that the ruling class was traumatized by their defeat in Viet Nam, they were looking for a way out. What emerged out of all of this was �The Gentlemen Killers of the CIA,� which was an absolutely extraordinary document in almost every respect.

Not only does Harrison Salisbury detail that described above, he describes the relationships with Allen Dulles and the people at the CIA, the dinners at the posh clubs, the furnishings and the elegant service and the waiters, and he says, �The real face of the CIA is the man with the angle iron, the enforcer, neither the tweedy man nor the organization man wields the angle iron or the silence revolver himself. The enforcer is hired help, for the most part in the Mafia. There is a difference: the Mafia enforcer is killing for profit, he is trying to establish a monopoly for the family; the CIA men who use these people, those in the tweeds or grey flannels, have been convinced that they are acting in their own national and class interests, the old red, white, and blue, but the bottom line at the CIA is blackmail, the squeeze, and the necessary killer. The CIA men feel no remorse over the killing of Premier Mossadegh of Iran or of Che Guevara. In the first place, these are targets; in the second place, the killing is done by those they instruct.� This is an extraordinary document and it goes to the very issue of the Kennedy Assassination itself to which Harrison Salisbury alludes in many respects in this article.


Sources:
1. �Gentlemen Killers of the CIA,� Harrison Salisbury, Penthouse Magazine, May 1975
2. www.takingaimradio.com Audio Archive
3. CIA Document 1035-960


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How the CIA Hides Its Involvement in the JFK Assassination

Part Two (cont�d)

A very interesting CIA document was revealed in response to a Freedom of Information Act request, CIA Instructions to Media Assets, April 1, 1967, Document 1035-960, marked �Psych� for �psychological operations,� in the Dept. of CS, or clandestine services, also known as the �dirty tricks� department. It was discovered in 1977, year of the Bernstein article for Rolling Stone. Find it at www.mainbase.org/FOIA/jfk01.html or go to www.jfklancer.com/CIA.html


CIA Document 1035-960
RE: Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report



1. Our Concern. From the day of President Kennedy's assassination on, there has been speculation about the responsibility for his murder. Although this was stemmed for a time by the Warren Commission report, (which appeared at the end of September 1964), various writers have now had time to scan the Commission's published report and documents for new pretexts for questioning, and there has been a new wave of books and articles criticizing the Commission's findings. In most cases the critics have speculated as to the existence of some kind of conspiracy, and often they have implied that the Commission itself was involved. Presumably as a result of the increasing challenge to the Warren Commission's report, a public opinion poll recently indicated that 46% of the American public did not think that Oswald acted alone, while more than half of those polled thought that the Commission had left some questions unresolved. Doubtless polls abroad would show similar, or possibly more adverse results.


2. This trend of opinion is a matter of concern to the U.S. government, including our organization. The members of the Warren Commission were naturally chosen for their integrity, experience and prominence. They represented both major parties, and they and their staff were deliberately drawn from all sections of the country. Just because of the standing of the Commissioners, efforts to impugn their rectitude and wisdom tend to cast doubt on the whole leadership of American society. Moreover, there seems to be an increasing tendency to hint that President Johnson himself, as the one person who might be said to have benefited, was in some way responsible for the assassination.

Innuendo of such seriousness affects not only the individual concerned, but also the whole reputation of the American government. Our organization itself is directly involved: among other facts, we contributed information to the investigation. Conspiracy theories have frequently thrown suspicion on our organization, for example by falsely alleging that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for us. The aim of this dispatch is to provide material countering and discrediting the claims of the conspiracy theorists, so as to inhibit the circulation of such claims in other countries. Background information is supplied in a classified section and in a number of unclassified attachments.


3. Action. We do not recommend that discussion of the assassination question be initiated where it is not already taking place. Where discussion is active [business] addresses are requested:

a. To discuss the publicity problem with [?] and friendly elite contacts (especially politicians and editors), pointing out that the Warren Commission made as thorough an investigation as humanly possible, that the charges of the critics are without serious foundation, and that further speculative discussion only plays into the hands of the opposition. Point out also that parts of the conspiracy talk appear to be deliberately generated by Communist propagandists. Urge them to use their influence to discourage unfounded and irresponsible speculation.

b. To employ propaganda assets to [negate] and refute the attacks of the critics. Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose. The unclassified attachments to this guidance should provide useful background material for passing to assets. Our ploy should point out, as applicable, that the critics are (I) wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in, (I) politically interested, (III) financially interested, (IV) hasty and inaccurate in their research, or (V) infatuated with their own theories. In the course of discussions of the whole phenomenon of criticism, a useful strategy may be to single out Epstein's theory for attack, using the attached Fletcher [?] article and Spectator piece for background. (Although Mark Lane's book is much less convincing that Epstein's and comes off badly where confronted by knowledgeable critics, it is also much more difficult to answer as a whole, as one becomes lost in a morass of unrelated details.)


4. In private to media discussions not directed at any particular writer, or in attacking publications which may be yet forthcoming, the following arguments should be useful:

a. No significant new evidence has emerged which the Commission did not consider. The assassination is sometimes compared (e.g., by Joachim Joesten and Bertrand Russell) with the Dreyfus case; however, unlike that case, the attack on the Warren Commission have produced no new evidence, no new culprits have been convincingly identified, and there is no agreement among the critics. (A better parallel, though an imperfect one, might be with the Reichstag fire of 1933, which some competent historians (Fritz Tobias, AJ.P. Taylor, D.C. Watt) now believe was set by Vander Lubbe on his own initiative, without acting for either Nazis or Communists; the Nazis tried to pin the blame on the Communists, but the latter have been more successful in convincing the world that the Nazis were to blame.)

b. Critics usually overvalue particular items and ignore others. They tend to place more emphasis on the recollections of individual witnesses (which are less reliable and more divergent--and hence offer more hand-holds for criticism) and less on ballistics, autopsy, and photographic evidence. A close examination of the Commission's records will usually show that the conflicting eyewitness accounts are quoted out of context, or were discarded by the Commission for good and sufficient reason.

c. Conspiracy on the large scale often suggested would be impossible to conceal in the United States, esp. since informants could expect to receive large royalties, etc. Note that Robert Kennedy, Attorney General at the time and John F. Kennedy's brother, would be the last man to overlook or conceal any conspiracy. And as one reviewer pointed out, Congressman Gerald R. Ford would hardly have held his tongue for the sake of the Democratic administration, and Senator Russell would have had every political interest in exposing any misdeeds on the part of Chief Justice Warren. A conspirator moreover would hardly choose a location for a shooting where so much depended on conditions beyond his control: the route, the speed of the cars, the moving target, the risk that the assassin would be discovered. A group of wealthy conspirators could have arranged much more secure conditions.

d. Critics have often been enticed by a form of intellectual pride: they light on some theory and fall in love with it; they also scoff at the Commission because it did not always answer every question with a flat decision one way or the other. Actually, the make-up of the Commission and its staff was an excellent safeguard against over-commitment to any one theory, or against the illicit transformation of probabilities into certainties.

e. Oswald would not have been any sensible person's choice for a co-conspirator. He was a "loner," mixed up, of questionable reliability and an unknown quantity to any professional intelligence service.

f. As to charges that the Commission's report was a rush job, it emerged three months after the deadline originally set. But to the degree that the Commission tried to speed up its reporting, this was largely due to the pressure of irresponsible speculation already appearing, in some cases coming from the same critics who, refusing to admit their errors, are now putting out new criticisms.

g. Such vague accusations as that "more than ten people have died mysteriously" can always be explained in some natural way
e.g.: the individuals concerned have for the most part died of natural causes; the Commission staff questioned 418 witnesses (the FBI interviewed far more people, conduction 25,000 interviews and re interviews), and in such a large group, a certain number of deaths are to be expected. (When Penn Jones, one of the originators of the "ten mysterious deaths" line, appeared on television, it emerged that two of the deaths on his list were from heart attacks, one from cancer, one was from a head-on collision on a bridge, and one occurred when a driver drifted into a bridge abutment.)


5. Where possible, counter speculation by encouraging reference to the Commission's Report itself. Open-minded foreign readers should still be impressed by the care, thoroughness, objectivity and speed with which the Commission worked. Reviewers of other books might be encouraged to add to their account the idea that, checking back with the report itself, they found it far superior to the work of its critics.

Bold is mine.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd swear some posters around here take their talking points straight out of that document!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
How the CIA Hides Its Involvement in the JFK Assassination


[b]e. Oswald would not have been any sensible person's choice for a co-conspirator. He was a "loner," mixed up, of questionable reliability and an unknown quantity to any professional intelligence service.

Bold is mine.



bacasper wrote:
I'd swear some posters around here take their talking points straight out of that document!



Indeed. Or all you have to do is go to McAdam's site and you will get exactly what some posters here have written!

Lee Oswald was anything but the "loner" that the framing process portrayed him to be.

Most likely ONI, he had affiliations with most of the intelligence organizations.

Common sense tells you that no one could move in and out countries like this man did without backing from the US government. And especially telling is being able to bring a bride from the Soviet Union during the time period he did. It just wasn't done at that time.


The Dallas Police Department obtained 455 items of evidence belonging to Lee Oswald from 1026 North Beckley and 2313 West 5th in Irving, Texas on November 22-23, 1963. DPD Officer Paul McCaghren photographed those items on November 24-25, 1963, using five rolls of Kodak High Contrast Copy film. Special Agent Warren deBrueys took possession of the undeveloped film as well as physical possession of the 455 items on November 26, 1963. SA Warren deBrueys took the film and the 455 items to Washington, D.C. on November 27.

The FBI copied the film given to them by the DPD. On December 2, 1963, the FBI returned not five but two rolls of copied film to the DPD. Of the 455 items photographed by the DPD, only 167 items appeared on the film that was returned to the DPD by the FBI. There were 288 items missing from the developed film. The FBI had the physical evidence and the original film. The DPD was left with copies of two rolls of film containing less than half of the items they had photographed.

On December 3, 1963, DPD Chief Curry wrote to Gordon Shanklin informing him that "items #164 thru #360 did not record."

A comparison of the 455 items in question (Warren Commission Exhibit #20003) [sic] with the two rolls of film returned to the DPD by the FBI shows the following items missing from the film returned to the DPD: items #73, #91, #118, #135, #137, #142, #143, #146, #152, #153, items #164 thru #360, all but one piece of evidence from item #375, items #376, #378, #379, and all items #383 thru #455. A total of 288 items missing.

The first roll of film returned to the DPD is 58 feet, 5 inches long. It contains 8 feet, 9 inches of blank film (dark) at the beginning of the roll, 25 feet, 2 inches of film showing items #1 thru #163, and 4 feet, 6 inches of blank film (clear) at the end of the reel. The last 4 feet, 6 inches of film, which is blank (clear) had been spliced to the original film at the end of item #163. This blank film (clear) is not the same brand of film that contains items #1 thru #163.

The second roll of film is 35 feet, 2 inches long. It contains 6 feet, 10 inches of blank film (dark) at the beginning of the roll, 16 feet, 6 inches of film showing items #360 thru #382, and 11 feet, 10 inches of blank film (10 feet, 10 inches clear; 1 foot dark) at the end of the reel. There are no apparent splices in this film.

Chief Curry requested the FBI to photograph the missing items and furnish the DPD with copies of those items. It was several months before the FBI sent the DPD photographs of the missing items. When the photographs were returned to the DPD, some of the items photographed were found to be altered and/or fabricated (items #168, 169, #173). Item #168 was the first item mentioned in Chief Curry's letter to Shanklin as missing from their film.

Item #168 is Oswald's 1956 W-2 tax statement (see CE 20003) [sic]. The tax ID number listed on this 1956 Pfisterer W-2 tax statement, currently in the DPD archives, was not created until January, 1964. This 1956 tax form is clearly a forgery---created to show Oswald working at Pfisterer's in 1956. Therefore, the authenticity of all 288 items missing from the film returned to the DPD by the FBI is questionable.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manner of Speaking wrote:
Well this one for example:

regicide wrote:


I've already shown above that this graphic is inaccurate. It suggests that Connolly was sitting directly behind Kennedy, and at the same height. It also suggests that the entry wound was about a third of the way down the back, which is also untrue, and I've demonstrated above.


[quote name='Cliff Varnell' date='Dec 1 2007, 05:39 PM' post='129248']
[quote name= post='129195' date='Nov 28 2007, 03:21 AM']Is the height of the seats important to debunking the MBT.[/quote]


Absolutely irrelevant.

JFK was shot in the back around the level of his 3rd Thoracic vertebra,
2" to 3" too low for the SBT.

The SBT thus fails on it's trajectory, period.
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How the CIA Hides Its Role in the JFK Assassination

Part 3:

Although the foregoing CIA Instructions to Media Assets was written in 1967, it reflects what is going on today, 40 years later. It instructs its assets to label critics and people who have exposed evidence of the role of the Central Intelligence Agency as instruments and dupes of the KGB. This is the precise fashion in which CIA Director Richard Helms, speaking to the US Senate, specified that Paese Sera, the Italian newspaper, was an instrument of KGB propaganda, in direct relation to instructions about attacking those who are exposing their role in the assassination of Kennedy.

From the foregoing, let�s take a look at
�4e. Oswald would not have been any sensible person's choice for a co-conspirator. He was a 'loner,' mixed up, of questionable reliability and an unknown quantity to any professional intelligence service.�

This has been debunked over and over in A Farewell to Justice in which author Joan Mellen shows Oswald�s relation to not just one but three intelligence agencies: the FBI, CIA, and US Customs. Let�s look at how today, the counterattack by the CIA, using media assets, book reviews, features, and actual books are putting out the disinformation that this is generated deliberately by Communist propagandists, and that there is false information and attacking the veracity and credibility of the critics of the official fiction. We�ll take a look at some of these reviews.

In 1967, the Italian newspaper, Paese Sera, which is a daily with a large circulation, a paper of the independent left but not of the Communist Party (it would have every right to be but it wasn�t), it was not Unita, it was roughly the equivalent in Italian political terms of The Nation magazine ironically enough. Paese Sera was concerned about something that was preoccupying the entire broad left and intelligentsia in Italy, namely the known collaboration of military and intelligence services, notably that apparatus of Mussolini that was alive and well in those services with the CIA pursuant to a putsch or a military coup in Italy, as had in fact unfolded in Greece.

Paese Sera launched an extensive 6-month investigation that Ralph Schoenman, Director of the Who Killed Kennedy Committee, and Executive Director of the Bertrand Russell Foundation, was involved with that uncovered proprietary organizations of the CIA collaborating with the military and intelligence services in Italy. Specifically, something called Centro Mondiale Commerciale, (CMC) or World Trade Mart, and another industrial exposition called Permanent Industrial Expositions, or Permindex. The documentation that flowed from this investigative work led to the expulsion of these organizations from Italy. They then set up business in South Africa. Beyond that, one of its key directors was a man named Clay Shaw, a director of Permindex and CMC.

Clay Shaw, persona non grata now in Italy, goes back to New Orleans and the International Trade Mart. In 1967, Ralph Schoenman took these articles and the investigative work of George Oconti and others in Paese Sera. They translated it and sent it to Jim Garrison, then District Attorney of New Orleans. Garrison had already proceeded with his investigation of Clay Shaw and his role in the CIA prior to receiving the Paese Sera material. That was based upon his discovery of the relationship with Clay Shaw, Oswald, and the nexus of the planning for the assassination of Kennedy located at 531 Kemp St. in New Orleans which was the other side of 531 Lafayette Street, the catty-corner entrances to the offices of Guy Bannister. Bannister had been the Director of the FBI, a CIA operative, deeply involved with Oswald, Ruby, Clay Shaw, and a CIA pilot named David Ferrie.

A Farewell to Justice, which took up the investigation of Garrison, taking it far beyond where Garrison was able to go in his lifetime, not only establishes the organizing role in the assassination of these CIA figures but with the documents and interviews with 1200 witnesses, makes indisputable the evidence, the witness testimony about the very architecture of the Kennedy assassination itself.

Immediately upon the exposure of this material, a campaign was launched in coordination with Richard Helms and the CIA to label this information as disinformation supplied by the KGB, the secret services of the Soviet state. Paese Sera was called simply a conduit for the KGB.

Max Holland is on the editorial board of The Nation magazine. He proceeds to write a series of articles in Wilson Quarterly and various New Orleans publications and on the internet in which he sets forth the thesis that Jim Garrison and the investigation of the role of the CIA in the assassination of Kennedy are responsible for the loss of faith in government, for the entire radicalization of the 60�s, the disillusionment of an entire generation in the bona fides of their government by imputing to the CIA responsibility for the assassination of Kennedy. In this series of documents, he asserts this was KGB propaganda, Garrison was a paranoid and a dupe, and the entire architecture of the assassination was disinformation from the KGB. That theme is continued today in a series of unrelenting attacks on A Farewell to Justice orchestrated by Max Holland and a clone of his, Mel Ayton, based in Britain, who regurgitate the Big Lie about the KGB.

Ayton puts himself forward as an expert on the Kennedy assassination as author of books such as Questions of Conspiracy that he published after a conversation with Arlen Specter, although nobody ever heard of this guy and now he comes forward as an �expert.� His bio says he provides expertise on the Kennedys to the BBC (leading one to wonder about the scholarship of BBC programming).

Mel Ayton uses the tactic of accept a fabrication and then compound that fabrication. And the original fabrication is what he calls Max Holland�s debunking of the Italian newspaper story (referring to Paese Sera), and the Max Holland article is the lie that linked the CIA to the Kennedy assassination.

As seen earlier in Instructions to Media Assets, a prime CIA tactic against bringing out the truth about the Kennedy assassination is to say that the criticisms of the official fiction are generated by the KGB, as Max Holland does who is on the Editorial Board of The Nation magazine and writes for the CIA.

He applies these tactics today, particularly in relation to Joan Mellen�s A Farewell to Justice and to Paese Sera. Holland, who is published on the CIA�s website, says that the criticisms of the Warren Report are being generated by Communist propagandists, or KGB.

In Joan Mellen�s A Farewell to Justice, she meticulously exposes the function and role of Max Holland. In The Wilson Quarterly Spring 2001, Holland hangs all responsibility for �America�s loss of faith in public institutions on Jim Garrison.�

Holland continues: �Shaw�s terrible miscarriage of justice trial had immense consequences for the political culture of the US. Of all of the legacies of the 1960�s, none has been more unambiguously negative in the American public�s corrosive cynicism toward the federal government. Though that attitude is commonly traced to the disillusioning experiences of VietNam and Watergate, its genesis actually lies in the aftermath of the JFK assassination, before antiwar protests were common. Dissatisfaction with the official verdict that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone brought into a widespread conviction that the federal government was incompetent or suppressing the truth, a fiendishly clever operation of the Russian KGB, a clever conspiracy successful in seducing the public because of the gullibility of a vainglorious dupe, Jim Garrison. The KGB slipped a bogus story into a crypto-Communist newspaper Paese Sera,� and the beat goes on with Max Holland.

Of course, it has been established that Jim Garrison had already begun the prosecution of Clay Shaw prior to the Paese Sera material. What the Paese Sera investigation unfolded is nothing less than Operation Gladio and P2, the 40-year clandestine murder and terror campaign, including the kidnapping and murder of Aldo Moro, the bombing of the Bologna train station in 1984, and all of the various killings and terror operations imputed to the Red Brigades and the left which were all in fact the CIA�s own doing. Operation Gladio is not particular to Italy, it is generalized throughout Europe. There is book after book now as well as a series in The Guardian that has confirmed and corroborated this. The Italian Parliament has corroborated this. This heart and soul of CIA destabilization and terror apparatus operation internal to Italy, THAT is what Paese Sera was concerned with and uncovering and investigating. The Kennedy assassination was the last thing on their minds.

What came out of their investigations fortuitously was the cover organizations for those operations in Italy that turn out to be part of Permindex. Permindex and Centro Mondiale Comerciale are linked not only to the murder of JFK but, as the Paese Sera series reveals, it embraced as well the CIA plots to assassinate Charles DeGaulle.

One of the points about Richard Helms, the CIA Director (who was convicted of perjury after he lied about the overthrow and murder of Salvador Allende in Chile), that Max Holland on behalf of the CIA attempts to assert is that it is Paese Sera that is responsible for the fiction about the role of the CIA in the plots to assassinate Charles DeGaulle.

Holland is referring to Richard Helms� testimony before the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee on June 2, 1961.

Documentation of the role of Permindex in the plans to assassinate DeGaulle, the collusion and the meetings between the OAS in Algeria and the CIA, were documented by French intelligence and published by L�Express magazine in France. Here is a particular irony about Mr. Holland: The Nation magazine exhaustively exposed the CIA�s attempts to assassinate Charles DeGaulle and Permindex�s involvement in these very operations. It was Paese Sera that picked up on this from the publications in France and related it to what was taking place in Italy at the time. To this very minute this is relevant because the internet is now flooded with Max Holland and his associate Mel Ayton�s unbridled attacks on Joan Mellen as a disinformation dupe, spreading Communist propaganda and advertising the paranoid Jim Garrison�s investigation into the role of the CIA in the Kennedy killing.

Of interest: Oliver Stone's Letter to Foreign Affairs, August 5, 2002
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How the CIA Hides Its Role in the JFK Assassination

Part 4:

Also in the Mel Ayton review is something that goes back to the Carl Bernstein�s �The CIA and The Media� article (Part 1). In the NY Times of Dec. 11, 2005 was an important article by Jeff Gerth, �Military�s Information War Is Vast and Often Secretive� which discussed the campaign of the Pentagon, another intelligence agency, to create media throughout Iraq and Afghanistan and is a model for what the intelligence agencies have been doing throughout the world and in the US, too. Part of the Ayton article is this statement: �Branding authors who reject JFK conspiracy theories as CIA assets is Mellen�s favorite smear tactic in the book. It�s a common tool used by JFK conspiracy writers. It�s also McCathyite in nature.�

Don Boning, a former Miami Herald reporter and author of The Castro Obsession, is incensed with references made by Mellen that he was a CIA-sponsored reporter. Boning said in emails he �never took a cent from the CIA.� He acknowledges therefore his relationship with the CIA. He was also outraged with the implication, along with the terms �writer asset� and �utilized,� in his email of March 10, 2005 to author Joan Mellen. �Top editors at the Herald were well aware and approved of my contacts with the CIA during the 1960�s.�

It is very interesting to look at the CIA file of Donald Dean Boning, who is without a doubt, one of the primary CIA assets. As Mellen writes, �CIA-linked Boning was the Latin American editor for the Miami Herald and, as shown in these documents, was a top-level CIA informant with the code name AM Carbon-3. He worked at the Miami Herald, according to the CIA, since 1959 and became Latin American editor in March 1967.�

This is not only in Mellen�s book. Mellen and we at Taking Aim Radio have in our hands the very CIA documents designated as �Secret� dated June 14, 1968 that designate Donald Dean Boning as AM Carbon-3. That is AM Carbon-3 who is not just a CIA operative in Miami but he is doing undercover operations for the CIA. He has Covert Security Approval. Here is one example: One of the investigators for Jim Garrison in attempting to establish the architecture of the JFK assassination was Carl McNabb. He went under the name of Jim Rose. Rose went to Miami to see Donald Dean Boning on Aug. 21, 1967. He was engaged in an investigation for Jim Garrison at the time tracking down none other than Rolando Mas Ferrer, the Battista torturer who evidence showed was one of the shooters in the Kennedy assassination. Without going into all the particulars about Jim Rose�s investigation, when he approached Boning he gave his name as Winston Smith on March 28, 1968. Immediately a full report is provided to the CIA, and we have the CIA documents by Boning not only on what Winston Smith/Jim Rose/Carl McNabb was investigating but on what to do about the investigation and how to stop the investigation with references to some of the figures who had to be matters of concern. Col. L. Robert Castor met with Jack Ruby and Perrin in Dallas. All of the particulars of the investigation into the apparatus that was engaged in the actual shooting of Kennedy that we were on track in uncovering that Carl McNabb/Jim Rose was zoning in on for Jim Garrison at the time, and Boning gives not only a heads up to the CIA but an operational plan for stopping it. Mellen has documented this in the book as part of the extraordinary, revelatory material that shows the role of the CIA in the murder of John F. Kennedy. It also particularly shows the role of media in servicing the CIA�s operations.

Right at this moment as you are reading this we have Mel Ayton and Max Holland on the attack accusing Joan Mellen of slandering Boning, accusing all of us of inventing this when we have the documents in hand. They are �smoking gun� documents. Remember, Boning acknowledges that he was an asset for the CIA. Whether or not he took money form the CIA or was paid by the Miami Herald is not the issue. This is a man who was working with the CIA and moreover, he lets us know that the top editors of the Miami Herald were aware of and approved of his work with the CIA, the man who was the Latin American editor for the Miami Herald in the late 1960�s. He was working with JMWave which was one of the operations for the assassination of Castro. This is the murder apparatus in which these media assets are fully in bed.

Another form of disinformation is revealed in a review written on amazon.com by Andrew Johnson, of California, USA, of A Farewell to Justice called �A Farewell to Scholarship.� A form of disinformation is to put out a piece of false information as truth while accusing an author of falsifying, or fabricating, their scholarship. Andrew Johnson is a pseudonym, a cohort of the Max Holland/Mel Ayton group. (By the way, Mel Ayton works with Front Page, the vehicle of David Horowitz, who is just to the right of Genghis Khan.) David Horowitz was brought to London. He was a research director for the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation. He was a �red diaper� baby. He wrote Free World Colossus. For him the sun shone out of a particular aperture of Stalin�s anatomy. Since he is now in his apostasy, he equates socialism with that Stalinist regime. He did it at the time; he does it now, except now he does it for the CIA band of disinformation specialists.

What do they do? They zero in on A Farewell to Justice and engage in the same character assassination of Joan Mellen that they undertook and continue to do with Jim Garrison. From Andrew Johnson�s review on www.amazon.com:

�It would take a book of equal length to list the inaccuracies and errors Mellen has made but, just as a random example, let us take her contention on p. 236 that James Kirkwood, the author of American Grotesque and who covered the Shaw trial for Playboy magazine, drove to Clinton, La, with Hugh Aynesworth and William Gurvitch.�

(James Kirkwood who wrote American Grotesque, which was an attack on Jim Garrison, and Hugh Aynesworth, a reporter for Newsweek and Dallas Morning News, are media assets themselves. They were engaged in threatening the witnesses, attempting to bribe them, of making clear to them that they would suffer a very severe fate unless they recanted their testimony. They were instruments for the destruction of the investigation and for the role of the Agency in covering its tracks.)

Let�s return to the quotation bearing upon Joan Mellen�s investigation in Clinton, La of the presence there of Clay Shaw, Lee Harvey Oswald, and David Ferrie, the CIA pilot. This is dynamite what she ahs unfolded here. You have the conspirators together in the planning of the assassination and the full meaning of what they were doing is laid out in the book.

�Hugh Aynesworth and William Gurvich in an attempt to interview (and bribe) a number of Garrison's prospective witnesses. When one finally finds the source for this contention in her endnotes (which is helpfully referenced as being on "p. 235"), one discovers that the origin for this incident is taken from Kirkwood's book itself. If a quick cross-check is made with American Grotesque, the reader will soon discover that Kirkwood makes no such claim at all. He clearly states that "Hugh Aynesworth of Newsweek told me a story that casts some doubt on these Country Folk," and then quotes a lengthy written account, made by Aynesworth and given to him ... Mellen has clearly mis-read or mis-represented this account as Kirkwood's own.�

The article goes on to accuse Mellen of fiction posing as fact because, he states, Kirkwood never went to Clinton and his book establishes that he never went to Clinton, Kirkwood was never in Clinton, LA according to the representations of this Andrew Johnson.

Here is the book American Grotesque by James Kirkwood, p. 220:

�I asked Bill Gurvitch to go with me [this is to Clinton]. 2/3 of the names on the list were unknown to Gurvitch. In other words, they had come forth more than five months after the hearing of Clay Shaw. Gurvitch and I drove to Clinton, La. in his car following the visit with the top Louisiana State Police official in Baton Rouge.�

On p. 222, the same confirmation:

�Not only was Kirkwood, we went to see Cory Collins, leader of an effort to register African-Americans to vote in the teeth of the Klan�s threats and destruction of the civil rights movement in Clinton, La.�

Cory Collins was one of the witnesses of the presence of Shaw and Lee Harvey Oswald and Ferrie together in Clinton at the time. In their meeting and attempts to put Oswald into a mental hospital, albeit as an employee, where he could later be presented a nut case as part of the planning of the assassination itself. That was how they would get him in, but as the Director Frank Silva made clear to Mellen, that was Step One.

�A deputy took us to his house and barged right in and sat down in the living room as Collins� father Emmett looked at the three of us with fear in his eyes. He goes into the particulars of how they sought to intimidate these witnesses.�

�Snowball� Collins as they called the father of Cory Collins was in fact a man with jet-black hair. He never had white hair. Leaving aside the disinformation that is replete in these CIA accounts, the gravamen of this is as follows: this all-out attack on Joan Mellen currently on amazon.com continues

�Ms. Mellen's overall fiction-posing-as-fact is symptomatic of the type of error that occurs on almost every page of the book. Careless and stupid errors and presumptions that a serious and objective historian or biographer could never make.�

This is the paradigm of what the CIA set out as to what is to be done with media critics of the Kennedy Assassination.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who care who killed Kennedy. I'm just glad someone capped him.
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