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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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 Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Faunaki wrote: |
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| There is overwelming evidence to support the idea that many if not most of the men who engage in these kinds of activities could in fact find a partner in their home country but choose not to. So therefore it is the men who are in fact rejecting their opportunities in their country of orgin and not vice versa the notion the politically correct media prefers |
It doesn't take a brain surgeoun to figure out that most of the losers were at some point married in their own home country and have kids and that they are divorced. Hating the idea of being taken to court again for child support/etc. these men go to countries where they can find someone who is basically powerless. That's what makes them losers. |
The fact that you have used the term" Powerless" suggests that you have decided to jump onto the bandwagon to discuss a topic without refering to the required readings on the basic subject matter. Sorry but skimming through" The Lonely Planets section on Massage doesn't count.
May I suggest either" My Big Honey" or Steven Leathers" Private Dancer"
gives a way more accurate depiction than skimming through" The Lonely Planets.
In reality the Ladies who do this job mostly out of choice are bypassing
and taking a short cut to having a lot of the luxery items we take for granted. The ladies are also skilled at forcing this walking ATMS give up their life savings so they can finance their families up North. These women often take the role of Matriarch. Supplying their families in the North with vehicles, medical costs and educational advancements.
The men are often foolishly duped into seeing these woman as victims.
Well this is what our western feminist world view would like them think.
When the male customer see's his new found love as a victim then he reverts to The White Knight syndrome. He see's himself as different to all the other customers in the bar. He then has falling under the spell of a bargirl. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Cross-cultural evidence from different societies consistently reveals that what women really want from men are economic resources. Studies with college coeds show that when shown photographs of men dressed in high-status uniforms (suits, ties, expensive watches, etc.) and low-status uniforms, these women would be significantly more willing to enter into relationships with the more expensively-attired males regardless of the man's physical appearance.
To a woman, attraction is simple: green is very good-looking....
Evolutionary psychologists like Dr. David Buss believe that present-day mate selection behaviors were founded in the Stone Age. Buss' recent survey of over 10,000 people in 37 countries, on six continents, reports that men consistently prize physical attraction and youth in their potential mates, while women value ambition, status, and financial resources.
In evolutionary terms, men seek out sexually desirable females whose youthful features indicate good health and the ability to bear children, while women look for mates with abundant enough resources to provide for their children. |
http://mesarchives.blogspot.com/2005/04/male-sex-drive.html
So it's not so different anywhere else in the world. In Thailand, people are just more up front and and honest about what is really going on. |
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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You'd also be surprised at the number of foreign guys who have no idea they are "dating" a prostitute. |
When I was realtively new to the scene, I accidentally went into what I now know to be called a "juicy bar" and hung out with a "juicy girl" for a while. I had no idea what it was. When she pressed her bare leg against mine (very very short miniskirt, hiked up on the bar stool) and leaned her bosom forward beneath my riveted eyes, I thought it was just the stereotype of Asians thinking white men are so handsome, until she asked for $60 for a "handjob or blowjob."
Oh well. She was 15 years younger than, so I wasn't *that* surprised there was money in the recipe. (I didn't pay, in case you're wondering.) |
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sobriquet
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Location: Nakatomi Plaza
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| sobriquet wrote: |
You'd also be surprised at the number of foreign guys who have no idea they are "dating" a prostitute. |
When I was realtively new to the scene, I accidentally went into what I now know to be called a "juicy bar" and hung out with a "juicy girl" for a while. I had no idea what it was. When she pressed her bare leg against mine (very very short miniskirt, hiked up on the bar stool) and leaned her bosom forward beneath my riveted eyes, I thought it was just the stereotype of Asians thinking white men are so handsome, until she asked for $60 for a "handjob or blowjob."
Oh well. She was 15 years younger than, so I wasn't *that* surprised there was money in the recipe. (I didn't pay, in case you're wondering.) |
Why not>? |
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
The fact that you have used the term" Powerless" suggests that you have decided to jump onto the bandwagon to discuss a topic without refering to the required readings on the basic subject matter. Sorry but skimming through" The Lonely Planets section on Massage doesn't count.
May I suggest either" My Big Honey" or Steven Leathers" Private Dancer"
gives a way more accurate depiction than skimming through" The Lonely Planets. |
Private Dancer is a novel. My Big Honey doesn't suggest that the "powerless" is wrong for the majority of women in the sex trade. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Why not? |
Because it's pathetic to pay for sex? I mean, seriously. I won't even argue the morality of it. It's just pathetic, pure and simple. |
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luvnpeas
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Why not>? |
1) It wasn't appealing, erotic, etc...
2) Some concerns about morality. I don't buy it that such women are there fully by personal choice.
3) Fear of disease. |
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sobriquet
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Location: Nakatomi Plaza
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| luvnpeas wrote: |
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| Why not>? |
1) It wasn't appealing, erotic, etc...
2) Some concerns about morality. I don't buy it that such women are there fully by personal choice.
3) Fear of disease. |
Did she have dirty hands? |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: |
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But I don't know how I could marry a woman who potentially had sex with hundereds of different men. |
I know this thread needs to be put to bed (arf arf!), but I have to know how many previous partners you would, ideally, like your future wife to have had? Just a ballpark figure, for my own morbid curiosity. |
Ideally single digets with a maximum of nine.
I don't know exactly why, but it sounds like a good number to me.
Perhaps I feel this way becase at some point I want to have kids, which means there's a good chance I'll have a daughter in the future.
Now I strongly feel that a mother will pass down many of her "traits" to her daughter. Therefore, if I married a woman who slept with men in the high double digets, there's a good chance my daughter will turn out that way too.
Now those types of girls are fun to have a fling with, but as a man, having my wife and potentally daughter behave that way would be too much.
Now my son? Game on...as long as he uses protection and doesn't get a girl pregnant.
Yes, this logc is absolutely sexist.
Perhaps that makes me a loser too  |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:17 am Post subject: |
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SO you can't go to Bed Super Club or Q Bar or Titanium and chat women up when in Bangkok? Or are you only capable of pulling poor country women? |
Are these clubs where you can actually meet Thai wonen who don't require direct payment for sex?
I admitt my ignorace in that in the various places I've been to in Thailand, it generally appeared that all of the girls were in fact "working" and not out for simply a good time.
But if tese places are not like that then thanks.
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| Sounds to me like you are trying to convince yourself that the women you pull in Korea are of a higher calibre than Thais. So you can justify blowing your pay packet on a nice yellow skinned beauty and not feel bad about it. |
Well when all the Thai girls I've met appeared to be working girls, then yes, the Korean girls I've dated are of a much mch higher caliber.
Absolutely!
I don't see the problem with this.
But again, I'm prefectly willing to admit my own ognorance and if there was a place to meet regular (i.e. non-working girls) in Thailand I'd be pleased.
But so far my sorry ass hasn't. |
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Faunaki
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Faunaki wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| There is overwelming evidence to support the idea that many if not most of the men who engage in these kinds of activities could in fact find a partner in their home country but choose not to. So therefore it is the men who are in fact rejecting their opportunities in their country of orgin and not vice versa the notion the politically correct media prefers |
It doesn't take a brain surgeoun to figure out that most of the losers were at some point married in their own home country and have kids and that they are divorced. Hating the idea of being taken to court again for child support/etc. these men go to countries where they can find someone who is basically powerless. That's what makes them losers. |
Obese chicks at the buffet are the real losers. |
Just chicks or people in general? For me, I have no problems with fat people eating their hearts out. |
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Faunaki
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:26 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Fishead soup"]The fact that you have used the term" Powerless" suggests that you have decided to jump onto the bandwagon to discuss a topic without refering to the required readings on the basic subject matter. Sorry but skimming through" The Lonely Planets section on Massage doesn't count.
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Didn't realize LP has a section on massage but thanks for pointing that out, I'm sure I'll start reading all those books you suggested as I'm real confused now as to whether the men in question are really losers or helpless little victims. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Endo, the gal I was with I met at what I gathered was a respectable gal, and no money was handed over.
I have the luxury of a conscience, not so much as looking down on dudes who would pay for sex. My conscience, however, didn't put food on koy's table when she tried to get me to pay at that beer bar. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
The fact that you have used the term" Powerless" suggests that you have decided to jump onto the bandwagon to discuss a topic without refering to the required readings on the basic subject matter. Sorry but skimming through" The Lonely Planets section on Massage doesn't count.
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Didn't realize LP has a section on massage but thanks for pointing that out, I'm sure I'll start reading all those books you suggested as I'm real confused now as to whether the men in question are really losers or helpless little victims. |
If you consider these men losers you would also have to consider Pablo Picasso a loser. He did the first cubist painting after contracting clap in a whorehouse. You might also have to consider Hemingway, James Joyce,
Henry Miller, Vincent Van Gaugh and Edvard Munch as losers. These men all paid for sex numerous times throughout their careers. |
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Patong Dong
Joined: 06 May 2003
Location: On Nut
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Endo:
But again, I'm prefectly willing to admit my own ognorance and if there was a place to meet regular (i.e. non-working girls) in Thailand I'd be pleased.
But so far my sorry ass hasn't.
Well if you're open to this liklehood, why did you feel comfortable calling out the Thais on this matter? Are you impling hooker hill or the anma's have an age matching policy? Call up an escort agent in North America and see if they ask your age or your credit card#. It's everywhere. Buddha bless the Thais for not feeling the need to hide it.
IF there was a place to meet regular girls in Thailand? Did you really think that because you didn't find one as a tourist it didn't exist?
I hope your are sincere in regards to your ignorance on the matter, and as a means to opening your eyes check out some of the aforementioned bars, or if you're a young buck go try your luck in RCA. That's where "regular" young Thais often go to meet. It'll be interesting to see if you're impressed or disappointed by the fact most of them will be there to meet other Thais rather than get swooped up by you. |
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