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TheUrbanMyth
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 Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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It's up to Russia and China to reflect on their own misdemeanors, and us to reflect on ours. |
By that logic we should have not interfered with Serbia's slaughter of Albanians in the Kosovo war.
And by that logic we should let Israel reflect on their own misdemeanors and we on ours...as I pointed out above. |
TUM, you are a fine one to talk about logic. I'll leave it at that.... |
Yes, yes I am thank you very much. It's why I've been attempting to educate certain posters including on this very thread in logic.
But now I am using YOUR logic.
You state that "We can only change what WE do (or support our governments to do). We cannot change what the Chinese do."
Fair enough.
All I am asking is why the same logic does not apply to Israel. After all I never see you harping on about the Chinese human right abuses the way you do about Israel's. |
Simple. We can't really do much to change China's occupation of Tibet. On the other hand, Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories is FUNDED BY THE US. All those bombs and planes that Israel periodically uses against Palestinians and Lebanese are bought and paid for by US TAXPAYERS. Do you see the difference?
Those shiny new settlements on the hill tops are bankrolled by US taxpayers. Israel just could not afford to do what it does if it didn't have billions of financial support each year. Without Western support, Israel could not continue its illegal settlements and subjugation of Palestinians. Without our support, they'd have been forced to negotiate peacefully, and find a workable solution with their neighbours. However, being the favourite child of the US, they continue to be spoilt and cossetted, and they see no reason not to continue down their path of expansion. After all, no-one is standing in their way. They have US backing. Obama doesn't dare rock the boat too much. If more US citizens began to question what goes on in the Levant, Obama would have a freer hand to attempt a real peace agreement. |
Except as I have pointed out before...the U.S is not innocent when it comes to human right abuses as prisons in Iraq have shown not to mention drone strikes. They are hardly in a position to criticize Israel for violating human rights.
As for Israel, without U.S support they wouldn't even exist in the first place. History does not support this fantasy of peaceful negotiation.
As for the way things stand now...it is even more unlikely.
There is a hard right wing faction in the Israeli government. Its presence is necessary to keep the current government in power . As such Bibi can not defy them and has to throw them 'a bone' every so often to keep them from walking out. He's between a rock and a hard place. If he complies with the U.S and Palestinians his government falls and a new government (which could take an even harder line against the Palestinians) would come in. Which would make any deals by the previous government invalid or revoked. |
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