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shifty

Joined: 21 Jun 2004

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:50 am Post subject:

interestedinhanguk wrote:

SinclairLondon wrote:

Many kids here have become too inured to the violence and won't respond to the suppliant whimperings of NETs. And on the other side of the spectrum, many are the cynsosures of their parents eyes, infalliable and peerless. And thats why I'll never work in a public school or back home. I really dig hagwons, just wish they would offer more vacation time.

If you're going to try to use big words, please spell them correctly.

I must admit, I can only see one blemish, "infalliable" and I quite like how that spelling looks. All in all, a really good post. I'd be so proud if I'd done it.

I also agree with its underlying premise.

interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject:

shifty wrote:

interestedinhanguk wrote:

SinclairLondon wrote:

If you're going to try to use big words, please spell them correctly.

"cynsosures"

Milwaukiedave

Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject:

One of the funniest things I've done is when a kid was playing with their eraser, I took it and threw it out the window and told them to get it after class. Then I give them the look like, "if you don't behave, you are next".

shifty

Joined: 21 Jun 2004

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:32 pm Post subject:

interestedinhanguk wrote:

shifty wrote:

interestedinhanguk wrote:

SinclairLondon wrote:

If you're going to try to use big words, please spell them correctly.

"cynsosures"

From a thousand paces I can see that "cynsosures" is a typo. . Anyrate, cynosures, cynsosures......both are wonderful in Korea.

shifty

Joined: 21 Jun 2004

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject:

double post... Last edited by shifty on Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:05 am; edited 1 time in total

shifty

Joined: 21 Jun 2004

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject:

interestedinhanguk wrote:

shifty wrote:

interestedinhanguk wrote:

SinclairLondon wrote:

If you're going to try to use big words, please spell them correctly.

"cynsosures"

I think we can come to some kind of consensus that it's a typo, courtesy of a healthy dollop of soju.

kimchi_pizza

Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:43 am Post subject:

lorenchristopher wrote:

hamsteRRiFic wrote:

Once I was teaching a class of 6th graders. One of the boys, whom I suspect had ADHD (or at the very least, a serious inability to concentrate on ANYTHING) kept turning around and talking to the person behind him. At first, I tried calling him by name, asking him questions, trying to keep him engaged in the class. Didn't work. Then I warned him at least 3 times to stop turning around. Nothing worked. Finally, exasperated, I walked over to his desk, planning to smack my hand down on the desk. I thought if I made a loud enough noise then perhaps he would understand that I was serious. But I was holding a water bottle and I ended up smacking the water bottle down on the desk, hard. It broke, water went EVERYWHERE, all over the both of us, and after a few deathly quiet seconds, the entire class broke out laughing hysterically. They couldn't stop giggling for the rest of the class.

I smile when I remember that. I learned to lighten up a lot after that incident. Very Happy

I don't know...I think it's good to have respect, and I think that for the most part, the inexperienced native teachers are mostly doing their best and trying to learn and improve over time, and I think that's all that can realistically be expected. My personality is such that it's hard for me to be a drill sergeant for very long. I don't enjoy it, the kids don't enjoy it...it just doesn't work for me. Maybe I'm just lazy, but I try to encourage participation & motivate them with stickers and candy, and I've been pleased with that method. But I've been lucky to have pretty good kids, for the most part.

+2

I'm sure a number of posters've watched The Wire. There was one line that really caught my attention. There was a former Baltimore PD officer turned teacher learning the ropes. One teacher's bit of advice, "You need soft eyes".

There you go....

A teachers eyes and even tone of voice can have tremendous affect on a class in a positive or negative manner. If you can manage "The Look" then you can control a class. It's all about "The Look".

After 10 years of teaching in all grade levels, fluency levels and behavioral issuses, I've never been pushed to the point of violence and never had the urge bubble up inside of me. Even raising one's voice isn't nesessary if you can manage a stern tone or a "Command Voice".

In my experience, it's when the teacher is nervous, ignorant (about the students, the material, teaching in general, etc.) or in doubt about themselves that they resort to the easiest and most reckless response to bad behavior in the form of violence and anger.

As a side note...

It's not about simply knowing the material and teaching, but you gotta reach those students. By "reach" I mean you gotta by patient, understanding and sypathetic to their frustrations, doubt and nervousness and adjust your teaching to reach them in a slightly personal level. If you gotta burn a kid, then do so, then come immediately back with positive attention, put out that fire and rebuild him/her with compassion and confidence.

Being a teacher....it's about building up a child or REbuilding a child once they been taken down. Ya just can't let'em smother in their own simmering ruins only to reignite again at a later time.

Fishead soup

Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:58 pm Post subject:

I had one of the schools biggest trouble makers in my camp. I went to the Vice Principal and said I wouldn't do the camp if I couldn't throw him out of the room.

take a rest

Joined: 15 Sep 2010
Location: self-banned

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject:

In my experience, people who resort to insults and condescescion in order to bulk up their 'point' tend not to be as amazing as they consider themselves to be. Usually, discipline isn't really a problem until around grade 6...

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