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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Pidgeon instead of Pigeon
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Globutron wrote:
I used 'major' because that's what American's call them. In the UK we don't have a 'major' system. So I was quoting 'major' because it's what 'American' people use.


It really gets on my wick when someone says "I majored in English". It really sounds awful when people say it like that. I'm going to make it my life's mission to get people saying "I read for a degree in English" or "I took a degree in English" depending on the preference of the individual. I'll be cold, dead and buried before I start saying "majored" when talking about university study.
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iRock



Joined: 08 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I majored in history and I'd be annoyed if someone used quotes around my major. It's rude. That's like saying my "lawyer" is helping me with a labor dispute. What? He calls himself a lawyer so I'm "quoting" him.

Idiot.
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nukeday



Joined: 13 May 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Globutron wrote:
Oh, Pidgeon instead of Pigeon


And pigeon instead of pidgin!
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Robbo



Joined: 05 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, when you have a degree, you presumably no longer have a major. a major is like a course of study. Anyway; back on topic. I was decimated by my last round, so here I go: "Spaghetti"; is not a sauce...
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Robbo



Joined: 05 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This keyboard has to go.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Globutron wrote:
I used 'major' because that's what American's call them. In the UK we don't have a 'major' system. So I was quoting 'major' because it's what 'American' people use.


You're quite sure your punctuation and grammar were better than everyone else's at your uni, are you?
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
Globutron wrote:
I used 'major' because that's what American's call them. In the UK we don't have a 'major' system. So I was quoting 'major' because it's what 'American' people use.


You're quite sure your punctuation and grammar were better than everyone else's at your uni, are you?


Quite sure. Take note that I never said mine was good. Also take note that I said that the British educational system is a load of b*ll*cks.
Also take note that I'm not currently writing an essay and I'm not double checking what I type.

Also, sometimes (not in this case) I make mistakes due to my own preference. Wonder instead of Wander, for example. Because I never SAY Wander, I always say wonder. Tangental instead of tangential and so forth. I just prefer them. It's the beauty of being a native.
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rumdiary



Joined: 05 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Years ago, when the search function worked, someone did a search for rediculous and ridiculous. They got more hits for rediculous.
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cragesmure



Joined: 23 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rumdiary wrote:
Years ago, when the search function worked, someone did a search for rediculous and ridiculous. They got more hits for rediculous.

Were they hits related to topics about how silly communism is?
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daskalos



Joined: 19 May 2006
Location: The Road to Ithaca

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interestedinhanguk wrote:
Globutron wrote:
interestedinhanguk wrote:
It kills me when people use literally when they should say figuratively, figuratively.

I am also bothered by the use of the non-word irregardless.

I wish people would understand the difference between resign and re-sign.


Does inflammable and flammable irritate you then? Technically there's only need for one, they mean exactly the same thing


They do not mean exactly the same thing, though there is overlap. Flammable strictly refers to being easily set on fire. Inflammable can mean that or also be used in a figurative sense.


Yeah, sadly, E.B. White lost this battle. "Inflammable" used to be the only word we needed to say that something could easily catch fire, but the since the prefix "in-" is also used to imply negation, idiots started thinking "inflammable" meant incapable of catching fire.

It probably won't be long before "inflammable" does indeed mean not burnable.

But, "inflammatory" still does serve as a metaphor for incendiary speech and actions, and thus far there is no word "flammatory." Which is pretty much all I and E.B. White's ghost can cling to.
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daskalos



Joined: 19 May 2006
Location: The Road to Ithaca

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the interwebs, mangled homonyms don't bother me much. (Your/You're, They're/There/Their, It's/Its)

Quote as a noun bugs the snot out of me, but I accept that this is a lost cause, even though reading something like "I put it in quotes" makes me want to puke. That said, I do favor the summary execution of anyone who uses quotation marks for emphasis.

The one that REALLY bugs me, though, is Lie/Lay. Every time I hear someone tell a dog to lay down, every time I hear someone say, "I laid down," every time I hear someone say, "I laid awake all night," another capillary in my brain bursts. Eventually these mini-strokes will bury me, and I will lie beneath a tombstone that reads, "Here lies Daskalos, laid to rest grammatically by those who lay in wait for him to shut the f-up about Lie/Lay."

Just kidding. That's not what my tombstone will read, because I never correct non-students over this. I just smile and nod, let the capillary burst, and hope like hell that the person never ever ever wants to teach English.

For the record:

* Lie/Lay/Have Lain, and it cannot take a direct object
* Lay/Laid/Have Laid, and it must take a direct object

"How can I show you I love if you won't lie down?"
"I laid the her body on the sofa after she choked to death."

"Yesterday I lay down for a nap and had the loveliest dream."
"I dreamed that my hen laid two eggs."

"I have lain awake for hours, hoping she would call."
"I have laid bare to her my soul."

It shouldn't be difficult, but apparently it is, because almost everyone screws this up. It's very sad, but I suppose it's no worse than the existential sadness of life itself.

Cheers. Great thread, by the way.

Das
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daskalos



Joined: 19 May 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, there's been some comma controversy in this thread. As I understand it, there are two systems. Open and Closed. The closed system deals in actual grammar. The open deals in approximating the way people actually speak. My take on the whole divide is that you'd better learn the rules of the closed system before striking out on your own with the open system. Hemingway knew every rule he was breaking when he broke them. If you don't, don't.
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daskalos



Joined: 19 May 2006
Location: The Road to Ithaca

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rumdiary wrote:
Years ago, when the search function worked, someone did a search for rediculous and ridiculous. They got more hits for rediculous.


The fact that there are more morons than non-morons does not move me to adjust my thinking about how to spell a word.
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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always hear "more faster" "more slower" etc
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