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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| fermentation wrote: |
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| It's their country, they can do whatever they want. And you know what they say about people (or countries) that live in glass houses... |
Oh crap. really? How come I wasn't informed of this? I can do whatever I want since its my country? Alright, watch out white people, I'm gonna be beating you into a pulp and stealing your money, and you won't be able to take any legal action. Its my fricking country, not yours. |
Yep, it's their real estate.
All: Who controls the Korean won?
Who keeps the foreign devil down?
We do! We do!
Kim: Who leaves Dokdo off the maps?
Park: Who keeps the Japs under wraps?
ALL: We do! We do!
All: Who holds back the Iphone 5?
Who makes Kim Jong IL a star?
We do! We do!
Yunee: Who robs the prostitutes of their rights?
Adjuma: Who rigs every test in sight?
All: We do! We do! |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| well I will take Korea over our countries any day! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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With regards to the title...there's some pretty ugly sentiments floating around in this thread.
And just because it is thinly disguised doesn't mean it is any more acceptable then the alleged overt racism of Koreans. |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Koharski wrote: |
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| The fact that the government has to remove racist rants on the internet speaks volumes about this country. They either think Korean people are so stupid that they can be persuaded to be racist by some random comment online, or Korean people really do lack any ability to think for themselves. It's probably both. |
Or maybe they do it for the same reason we do here on Dave's!!!!
Koharski |
Kudos to Daves, but what do "they" do as you say in "they do it"? I don't think "they" do much at all which is why the Human Rights Commission of Korea has asked them to quell hate/racist speech...
"On May 9,
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/05/117_86701.html
the commission demanded law enforcement authorities and Internet regulators to introduce steps to remove racially discriminating comments and articles in cyberspace. It called on the Ministry of Justice and the Korea Internet Self-governance Organization to come up with countermeasures against discriminative language, which it says could hamper social integration."
Isn't there a difference between the individuals on Daves who don't represent anyone and the Korean government who does in fact represent people? |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| markhan wrote: |
| fermentation wrote: |
| The fact that the government has to remove racist rants on the internet speaks volumes about this country. They either think Korean people are so stupid that they can be persuaded to be racist by some random comment online, or Korean people really do lack any ability to think for themselves. It's probably both. |
Government policing or restricting what universally deemed detrimental such as "racist rant" is common practices all over the world. And yet, you selectively choose Korea and attack Koreans for "lack of any ability to think for themselves." It is common thread, I noticed, for you. You loudly claim that you hate "racism" in other post and yet, you seem to be strongly bias against Korean, even when they are trying to do the right thing. |
"Trying?" Reading what the Human Rights Commission says or suggests doesn't count in my book as "trying" anything. |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| So what about the lonely farmers who can't get Korean wives? They're just supposed to give up on getting married? |
All kinds of people from all over the world "give up" on marriage either consciously or unconsciously, how are Korean farmers different? You must be young. |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Socioeconomic status |
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| But yeah if you're basically on your own and walking into this situation basically representing yourself, you're going to lose. |
NOT TRUE!
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| Not to mention your whole assertion that there would have beena candlelight vigil is ridiculous considering there are plenty of fights between Koreans and foreigners and no one cares. Heck there was that video of the "soldier" beating up the old guy in Itaewon and no one cared about that after like 15 minutes. No rallies. No pogroms. Nothing. Hongdae and Itaewon were the exact same the next day. And that was an OLD MAN. |
Yes, but the old DRUNK man wasn't really hurt. He didn't have any serious injuries. He was back drinking, getting drunk, and playing pool the next day. The two involved also apologized to each other.
There was recently a case where a taxi driver chased a female English teacher, broke into her residence/apartment building and was taught a lesson. He was on TV showing his injuries(past or present?). The television didn't even give the other side of the story. To suggest race has nothing to do with anything in court is naive.  |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Socioeconomic status |
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[Not to mention your whole assertion that there would have beena candlelight vigil is ridiculous considering there are plenty of fights between Koreans and foreigners and no one cares. Heck there was that video of the "soldier" beating up the old guy in Itaewon and no one cared about that after like 15 minutes. No rallies. No pogroms. Nothing. Hongdae and Itaewon were the exact same the next day. And that was an OLD MAN.
Seriously, can we drop the "media uproar" claim? We always here that if there is ever an incident there will be riots and it will be all over the papers. Instead we get page 9 blurbs and some netizen jaw-jaw.
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Indeed. It wasn't that long ago that people used to complain about being protrayed as predators and would make stupid statements like "there would be race riots if a single Korean child was molested by a foreigner." However after I linked to several such cases and showed no such uproar or race riot occured those people went mostly quiet...although every now and then one pops up. |
How long will we have to wait for those "links" to "several" such cases of a "foreigner(native English teacher?) molesting a Korean child."
It sounds like you count a link as someone being guilty of molestation, if not I know you won't be able to show such "links." Nice try  |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Socioeconomic status |
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| Los Angeloser wrote: |
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[Not to mention your whole assertion that there would have beena candlelight vigil is ridiculous considering there are plenty of fights between Koreans and foreigners and no one cares. Heck there was that video of the "soldier" beating up the old guy in Itaewon and no one cared about that after like 15 minutes. No rallies. No pogroms. Nothing. Hongdae and Itaewon were the exact same the next day. And that was an OLD MAN.
Seriously, can we drop the "media uproar" claim? We always here that if there is ever an incident there will be riots and it will be all over the papers. Instead we get page 9 blurbs and some netizen jaw-jaw.
r. |
Indeed. It wasn't that long ago that people used to complain about being protrayed as predators and would make stupid statements like "there would be race riots if a single Korean child was molested by a foreigner." However after I linked to several such cases and showed no such uproar or race riot occured those people went mostly quiet...although every now and then one pops up. |
How long will we have to wait for those "links" to "several" such cases of a "foreigner(native English teacher?) molesting a Korean child."
It sounds like you count a link as someone being guilty of molestation, if not I know you won't be able to show such "links." Nice try |
What are you going on about?
Anyway here's the thread. http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=180118 |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Socioeconomic status |
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| Los Angeloser wrote: |
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| But yeah if you're basically on your own and walking into this situation basically representing yourself, you're going to lose. |
NOT TRUE!
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So you'd go into court on a personal injury claim without a lawyer and expect a favorable result?
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| To suggest race has nothing to do with anything in court is naive. |
Not as naive as suggesting that having a lawyer has nothing to do with outcomes court.
I would submit that having a quality attorney is a far greater indicator of favorable outcomes in court than race, along with the connected indicators of wealth and connections.
The same reason you get a real lawyer and not a public defender/representing yourself back home if you are on trial is the same reason you do so here. |
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GoldSoundz
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Location: Pohang
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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If you want the facts on Korea, get them from 'Koreans' at the above website.
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Fixed. Search Dave's for more info. It's been widely suggested that the people running the site are kyopos who have never lived in or visited Korea. As a result, I'd take everything they ever have to say about Koreans, Korea, or foreigners in Korea with a great big dose of salt. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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They love me over there. They actually had a stickied thread dedicated to me saying how they were going to "get me" (now edited).
Keep in mind that very few (read: none) of the peters there actually reside in Korea. There's lots of racism there, to be sure, but the site admin is is Australia if I'm not mistaken. |
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beast
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| I've been in Korea for 14 years and I've seen a lot of racism, but I've actually seen more racism on this web site than I've seen on the streets of Korea. However, racism exists in every single country in the world, and complaining about it; is kind of like complaining about the weather. It ain't gonna change a thing. It just makes people more racist. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| Died By Bear wrote: |
| fermentation wrote: |
| Died By Bear wrote: |
| It's their country, they can do whatever they want. And you know what they say about people (or countries) that live in glass houses... |
Oh crap. really? How come I wasn't informed of this? I can do whatever I want since its my country? Alright, watch out white people, I'm gonna be beating you into a pulp and stealing your money, and you won't be able to take any legal action. Its my fricking country, not yours. |
Yep, it's their real estate.
All: Who controls the Korean won?
Who keeps the foreign devil down?
We do! We do!
Kim: Who leaves Dokdo off the maps?
Park: Who keeps the Japs under wraps?
ALL: We do! We do!
All: Who holds back the Iphone 5?
Who makes Kim Jong IL a star?
We do! We do!
Yunee: Who robs the prostitutes of their rights?
Adjuma: Who rigs every test in sight?
All: We do! We do! |
Nice Simpsons reference, but I think your version should say, "who puts Dokdo on the maps?" since the answer is "we (Koreans) do." or perhaps "who leaves Takeshima off the maps?" |
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