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No foriegners allowed in Busan sauna - I was refused entry
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be one within driving distance from wherever you live now patrick, no? Guess they might just be typical sports centre types, not really the same vibe. Just a steam room and showers, seems to be the western leisure centre model.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
Must be one within driving distance from wherever you live now patrick, no? Guess they might just be typical sports centre types, not really the same vibe. Just a steam room and showers, seems to be the western leisure centre model.



There are some at the gym but it is nowhere near the same!

There are spas and a few hot springs but the price is not comparable nor is the result in many ways.

Just not the same at all....
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woden wrote:
coralreefer_1 wrote:
I say file a complaint with the human rights commission.


I second this. You can file individual complaints to the commission and they are bound to investigate it, although their rulings are not legally binding. There has been some controversy recently around t he level of interference from the 2MB administration, but the way forward is to utilise them more and embarrass the government into some kind of action. Also, the case of the Korean-Uzbek was also taken up by the NHRCK so this would provide extra weight to that. As you probably know there is no law against racial discrimination in Korea as the government claims it is covered under Article 11 of the Constitution, on equality. Many NGOs and UN agencies have been calling on the government to change this and cases like this need to be publicised to increase the pressure for this. There is an Act sitting in parliament which would outlaw racial discrimination but it has been left to gather dust.

Here is information on how to make a complaint to the NHRCK:

http://www.humanrights.go.kr/english/guide/complaint_01.jsp

Please let us know how it goes.


Take them to court like they did in Japan.

I read a news article a while back about some American teachers that were refused entry to onsen in Japan. They took the onsen owners to court - and they WON!

I think they got like $20, 000 U.S. settlement but the onsen owners refused to take down their "NO FOREIGNERS" signs.

There were several onsens that discriminated against foreigners.

Look it up.
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krnpowr



Joined: 08 Dec 2011
Location: Midwest, USA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: No foriegners allowed in Busan sauna - I was refused ent Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
I have lived and worked in korea for 7 years.

I have travelled over almost every inch of the country and enjoyed saunas all accross the land, even in Jeollanamdo and never once been turned away.

Tonight this happened to me for the first time.

I thought I might have misunderstood, so I asked her explicitly in Korean if any foriegners were allowed regardless of race nationality etc and she confirmed that they are not.

I explained that I am an Englishman and an English teacher for a Busan governemnt sponsered school in Busan. I offered to show my id proving as much to show I wasn't a Russian gangster etc. She still refused.

The irony: the sauna is in 'Choryang FORIEGNER'S shopping zone' in Busan opposite the station.

The name of the sauna is 'Bally Land.'

There are reputedly a lot of Chinese / Russian 'gangs' operating there, hence my mentioning my nationality and proffession.

Will post pics of the place tomorrow.


I think you learned two things:

1. You need to avoid seedy saunas in Busan.
2. It's spelled foreigner, not "foriegner".
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