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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Odds are she may need some psychiatric help however. |
Anyone would need psychiatric help after putting up with abusive, controlling men, being a bar girl and living in Korea for 40 years.
The smoking act is just an attention grabber. Her real message is one of defiance of the corrupt Korean patriarchy.
My guess is she probably had a holiday abroad and suddenly realised ... whooaa. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:38 am Post subject: |
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While that is one possibility Julius it is by no means the only possible explanation nor the most likely.
It is just your opinion.
My point is just that this woman, whatever the reason is, is obvious mentally deranged likely needs some help.
I personally do not subscribe to these "society made him/her" do this theories but that is simply my opinion. |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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She's basically the korean equivalent of the crazy cat lady on the simpsons.
Julius might be reading too much into it.
On a related note. I lived in Korea for 2 years and I saw men beating on women in public twice. one was a high school or middle school boy putting a girl in a head lock on a subway platform. Nowhere near as violent as the video.
2nd incident was a husband, wife and child situation. The man for some reason knocked the wife on her ass. Proceeded to scream at her while she's sitting on the ground and then slams an umbrella on the ground right where she's sitting. Then I think he apologized (?) and picked her up. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Odds are she may need some psychiatric help however. |
Anyone would need psychiatric help after putting up with abusive, controlling men, being a bar girl and living in Korea for 40 years.
The smoking act is just an attention grabber. Her real message is one of defiance of the corrupt Korean patriarchy.
My guess is she probably had a holiday abroad and suddenly realised ... whooaa. |
If this was so, why is she acting like an ajosshi?
Isn't smoking on the subway while drinking and then swearing at anyone who dares to challenge them ajosshi-esqe behavior?
Defiance is based on acting like the complete opposite, not the same. Unless she's being satirical, which it doesn't seem like.
Also, there's just as much a chance that some ajumma would have taken offense and started an ajumma cat fight with her. I mean its not like only old men ride the subways and its not like only old men would take offense to public intoxication and smoking and swearing on a subway.
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
Anyone would need psychiatric help after putting up with abusive, controlling men, being a bar girl and living in Korea for 40 years.
The smoking act is just an attention grabber. Her real message is one of defiance of the corrupt Korean patriarchy.
My guess is she probably had a holiday abroad and suddenly realised ... whooaa. |
Anyone would need counseling help after being teased and bullied all his life for his conspiracy theories and foil hat wearing.
Julius's posting on Dave's is just an attention grabber. His real message is that his mutant ability is to decipher people's origins and innermost thoughts from watching two minute Youtube clips.
My guess is that he was dropped as a baby and suddenly realized. . . whooaa I can now see things that rational, sensible people cannot. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Nobody deserves "a beatdown." Nobody deserves to be the victim of an illegal assault. The woman in the videos does appear to be deserving of whatever Korea has that's the equivalent of a restraining order and a no trespass order. She certainly deserves to be penalized according to the law for her own illegal acts. More likely than not, she probably deserves some serious pschyiatric and psychological help, also. |
Yes, sometimes, some people need to be smacked. Not saying this situation is it but there are times when some people need to be brought down a notch and it will only happen with a good club to the head. |
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ajosshi
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: ajosshi.com
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| Nobody deserves "a beatdown." Nobody deserves to be the victim of an illegal assault. The woman in the videos does appear to be deserving of whatever Korea has that's the equivalent of a restraining order and a no trespass order. She certainly deserves to be penalized according to the law for her own illegal acts. More likely than not, she probably deserves some serious pschyiatric and psychological help, also. |
Yes, sometimes, some people need to be smacked. Not saying this situation is it but there are times when some people need to be brought down a notch and it will only happen with a good club to the head. |
I agree. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Yes, sometimes, some people need to be smacked. Not saying this situation is it but there are times when some people need to be brought down a notch and it will only happen with a good club to the head. |
Ah, yes. The old vigilante excuse/rationalization for their own illegal acts. Personally, I prefer the rule of law instead of the anarchy vigilantes love.
By the way, what court in South Korea has the legal authority to punish someone with being smacked in the manner the woman in the video was? |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
Anyone would need psychiatric help after putting up with abusive, controlling men, being a bar girl and living in Korea for 40 years.
The smoking act is just an attention grabber. Her real message is one of defiance of the corrupt Korean patriarchy.
My guess is she probably had a holiday abroad and suddenly realised ... whooaa. |
Anyone would need counseling help after being teased and bullied all his life for his conspiracy theories and foil hat wearing.
Julius's posting on Dave's is just an attention grabber. His real message is that his mutant ability is to decipher people's origins and innermost thoughts from watching two minute Youtube clips.
My guess is that he was dropped as a baby and suddenly realized. . . whooaa I can now see things that rational, sensible people cannot. |
Julius...you are reading a lot into this situation...in a weird Madoka's comic relief seems appropriate kinda way.  |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Yes, sometimes, some people need to be smacked. Not saying this situation is it but there are times when some people need to be brought down a notch and it will only happen with a good club to the head. |
Ah, yes. The old vigilante excuse/rationalization for their own illegal acts. Personally, I prefer the rule of law instead of the anarchy vigilantes love.
By the way, what court in South Korea has the legal authority to punish someone with being smacked in the manner the woman in the video was? |
Yea that good old law that is non existent here and that is over stepping their boundaries in the US.
My wife was slapped by a Korean lady, left a mark on her eye. The lady was smacking her little girl in the head in public and my wife asked her to stop.
We took your approach and called the cops They just kept telling us to take the woman's apology, she wasn't well mentally, and it's Korean culture. We pressed the issue further and the cops called my wife's principal so he could pressure her into dropping the charges. We went to the police station twice and nothing was done.
About a year earlier a parent came into my wife's school and slapped her co-teacher(my wife wasn't in the classroom with her but down the hall) in the face in front of all of the students. The cops did nothing, the co-teacher filed a report and had a law suit the cops called her principal(same one above) and had him badger the teacher into dropping the charges. Not long after this incident the students became very disrespectful to all teachers and administration. One student was stopped by the principal for being late. The boy just tried to walk passed him, the principal grabbed the student by the coat, the boy pulls away and bucks up to the principal. The principal did nothing and there where 30+ students watching. For 2 weeks the school gets out of hand bad. The students are cursing adults and acting like they're gonna hit the teachers if the teachers say anything to them.
The VP, who's old school and a former boxer(small but tough little dude) comes back from some kinda business trip encounters the same boy who pulled away from the principal. He has no idea any of this other stuff has happened. Situation plays out exactly like above, student tries to walk by, VP grabs coat, boy pulls away.
But now the VP does something different. He drops the hammer on the kid , an audience and magically order is restored.
Or if you want a bigger example think of Japan in WWII. Nobody hit them hard enough to do much to their ego. Then on Aug 6th and 9th they were hit hard enough to make them stop doing what they weren't supposed to be doing. |
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tardisrider
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| "Shut up, Bobby Lee" the Misfit said. "It's no real pleasure in life." |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Never forget that this is Korea. Seven months ago I saw a dude tackle a woman on the sidewalk, punch her multiple times, then kick her in the face at least twice, after he ripped his shirt off, exposing his ajossi rolls. Multiple witnesses... but when the one cop showed up, what did he do? Escort the drunk guy back home while the girl sat crying and bleeding on the sidewalk. Eventually, the restaurant ajummas outside where she was beaten took her in, but what a scene, what an injustice. This is Mars. I still have part of this recorded on my phone. There are seriously medieval problems here, despite what the usual suspects might hint/scream at the top of their lungs at, through a consistently deluded scope of relativism. |
So you just watched it like everyone else? It seems that it was entertaining enough that you even pulled out your phone camera to record it. |
Yes, I did. Yes, it was.
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| How are you any better than the rest of spectators who just stood by without even trying to break it up or help out the beaten woman on the sidewalk? |
It was never an issue of me being better than anyone else, it was an issue of me being white, having only been here a month or two, and having read about arrests and deportations resulting from westerners accosting drunk Koreans in the midst of domestic disputes.
There was a thread a while back where people gave their opinions on whether or not they would step in after witnessing something similar. I'm on the side of the "say something or do something" crowd; and if you put me in a similar situation now, I likely would have handled things differently. Either way, what's your point here? I believe I already addressed most of what you mentioned in a latter post.
And, Patrick, before haphazardly failing in your attempts quantify any anger management issues I may or may not have, please remember the anger-filled PMs you sent me a month or two back, for no apparent reason whatsoever. Also recall my leveled, put-you-in-your-place responses to them. Still got 'em, too. So lay off.  |
So what you're saying is that you have a good reason for not doing so, unlike everyone else who probably had a crap reason.
You do realize that all those people had a reason just as good as yours for not doing anything, right? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| That's what I like about the vigilantes...there's always a wonderful reason for them to do what they do. But, what about the reason the other person has for doing what they do? Oh, that's right. It's only the vigilante who's justified. And apparently in love with strawmen, to boot. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| That's what I like about the vigilantes...there's always a wonderful reason for them to do what they do. But, what about the reason the other person has for doing what they do? Oh, that's right. It's only the vigilante who's justified. And apparently in love with strawmen, to boot. |
Smacking someone who needs is different than smacking someone for no reason at all.
The lady was doing something she wasn't supposed to, more than once. She was confronted in a non-violent manner. Each time she provoked the other person. Is she to get s free pass for hitting the guy first? If she had thrown her beer on a younger male or female like she did the old man she might have been hurt. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| Utter bs, that post of yours. |
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