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Stan Rogers
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guavashake
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EZE
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| Life is imitating art imitating life to such a degree that when people talk about the North Korean leadership flipping out over Seth Rogen, I can't keep up with whether they're meaning in real life or in the movie itself. |
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Steelrails
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| People mocking Korean comedy shows and then turning on "real American comedy" like this need to have their head examined. This is our version of that inane stupidity that plays for the cheapest laughs. |
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Stan Rogers
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EZE
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2014123016978
It's making lots of money. I'm starting to think Seth Rogen baited the North Koreans and they swallowed it hook line and sinker. |
It was a brilliant marketing strategy by Rogen and the other Canadian guy to play the North Koreans and Americans off of each other. You know they were high fiving each other when they read about North Korea's reaction and rednecks singing "God Bless America" in the theaters.  |
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Sector7G
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| EZE wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
It's making lots of money. I'm starting to think Seth Rogen baited the North Koreans and they swallowed it hook line and sinker. |
It was a brilliant marketing strategy by Rogen and the other Canadian guy to play the North Koreans and Americans off of each other. You know they were high fiving each other when they read about North Korea's reaction and rednecks singing "God Bless America" in the theaters. |
Sure, it may be doing ok in the US and online, where it has set records, but I am not sure how it can really be considered brilliant marketing when they effectively shut themselves out of the Asian market, and probably did so even before the hack. Will the online sales make up for that? Possibly, but that is a huge gamble, and I think it was a big blunder and not well thought out - all they had to do was change Kim Jong-un's character to a fictional character.
"Geopolitics & ‘The Interview': No Asian Release"
http://deadline.com/2014/12/the-interview-asia-release-political-impact-north-korea-china-1201320054/
"Although it’s not been officially determined if Sony’s controversial North Korean-themed comedy, The Interview, is directly responsible for the devastating hack attack on the studio, the film will largely steer clear of the Asia-Pacific region. ...............Although it’s unclear if all release decisions were made prior to the breach, geopolitics was always likely to play a role in the movie’s rollout......................
The Interview is not expected to be seen anywhere in Asia Pacific save for Australia and New Zealand. That’s according to the film’s website. There have also been local South Korean reports that say the film will not screen there, and I’ve confirmed that is the case. That’s fairly understandable given the country’s proximity to the DPRK and the fact that Trey Parker and Matt Stone’s Team America: World Police was never released there. That puppet-based satire poked fun at Kim’s father Kim Jong-il, although pirated copies are understood to have made it into the country........
With China’s rampant piracy, it’s likely the film could make its way into the Middle Kingdom and beyond, but it is very unlikely it would get a theatrical release there. What’s more, if the film were smuggled into North Korea, the curious would have to be extremely cautious — Kim is believed to have executed some officials earlier this year for watching South Korean soap operas......
Deadline’s sister publication, Variety, also reports that Sony Pictures Entertainment Japan today confirmed that The Interview would not be released there. That decision was evidently made prior to the attack. |
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andrewchon
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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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In China, there are Chinese dubbed pirated versions that downloadable. (If it hasn't been shut down already)
In Paju, ex-North Koreans have sent 50,000 DVDs on their balloons. |
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nicwr2002
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| I tried to find this article I read a while back stats that Sony accidentally showed us that straight to digital downloads works. The reason that we have to wait 3 months or so for the Blu-ray and what not to come out is because theaters have an exclusivity agreement. Now that Sony has gotten away with bypassing that, it could mean we get movies sooner in the near future. |
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Sector7G
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| I tried to find this article I read a while back stats that Sony accidentally showed us that straight to digital downloads works. The reason that we have to wait 3 months or so for the Blu-ray and what not to come out is because theaters have an exclusivity agreement. Now that Sony has gotten away with bypassing that, it could mean we get movies sooner in the near future. |
I have one theory that they realized they screwed up in making a movie that could/would not be played in Asia, so they created this controversy in a way to recoup their losses. So in a way, yes, brilliant marketing, but done to make up for a previous blunder. However, this success may be " a one-off for a really one-off movie", and going forward, releasing a movie this way is still going to be tricky.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-sony-hacking-interview-vod-20141230-story.html
""This was a special case, but it showed what it could be," said a senior studio executive who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic. "But just putting one movie up there is not going to change consumer behavior."
To be sure, not all studio executives favor abandoning the traditional distribution model.
Theaters still generate the biggest bang for studios. The $15 million that "The Interview" generated from digital sales and rentals over the Christmas weekend might have equated to about $25 million if the film had been released on 3,000 screens, as Sony originally planned.
Studios have reaped huge financial rewards by releasing their movies through a series of markets that force people to pay each time they want to see a film: first in theaters, months later on DVD, followed by video on demand and on cable channels such as HBO or Starz.
Piracy is also a concern for studios when it comes to day-and-date releases. Bootlegged copies of "The Interview" began showing up online almost immediately after its VOD release, and people downloaded the film via file-sharing websites 1.5 million times in the first two days of its release, according to the website Torrent Freak." |
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guavashake
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Stan Rogers
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| I do believe that is called distributing pirate copies of copyrighted material. |
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Sector7G
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Steelrails
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A lot of people say that the interview would have this great subversive effect if released in North Korea. I'm not so sure.
If I'm on the other side of the world in a more traditional environment and the alternative offered by the enemy is a bunch of vulgar jokes and and immaturity, I might not become an instant convert and it may instead drive me more to be a loyalist.
This happens in the Middle East too where we struggle to grasp why people would reject a lifestyle filled with promiscuity, drugs, blasphemy, and lack of family centeredness. We mock what they hold most dear and then act surprised when instead of going "hahaha you are right" they say "screw you". |
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Stan Rogers
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| Steelrails wrote: |
A lot of people say that the interview would have this great subversive effect if released in North Korea. I'm not so sure.
If I'm on the other side of the world in a more traditional environment and the alternative offered by the enemy is a bunch of vulgar jokes and and immaturity, I might not become an instant convert and it may instead drive me more to be a loyalist.
This happens in the Middle East too where we struggle to grasp why people would reject a lifestyle filled with promiscuity, drugs, blasphemy, and lack of family centeredness. We mock what they hold most dear and then act surprised when instead of going "hahaha you are right" they say "screw you". |
I agree. |
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