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solhu



Joined: 21 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I am a american born korean college student at Rutgers I really want to go and see korea for myself. The only way i could afford it, however, is if I worked there in korea. The pay would not have to be marvelous, but still enough for it to be worthwhile. My korean is at best mediocore. My question is how do i go about contacting hagwons about job positions without a degree?
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BrothaJeff



Joined: 07 May 2009
Location: Vancouver Canada

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello. I got a Uni Diploma and a Uni Certificate but not a degree. Is that enough to teach English Legally?

I'm going to Korea to take over my best friend's (korean Canadian) job. Him and his mom run the school. He wants me to take over. I asked him about visas. He said I could do it with a traveling visa. I'm just a little worried about it.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Him and his mom..." Oh, yeah. You're ready to teach English!
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BrothaJeff



Joined: 07 May 2009
Location: Vancouver Canada

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha Ok thanks.
What if I wanted to get a normal teaching job later? Am I able to get a legal one with a Uni Diploma and Uni Certificate?
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i_teach_esl



Joined: 07 Sep 2006
Location: baebang, asan/cheonan

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can teach with an associate's degree, or even vocational school certificate.

http://www.talk.go.kr/

*edit to update link.


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BrothaJeff



Joined: 07 May 2009
Location: Vancouver Canada

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok cool Thanks i_Teach_Esl Smile
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mgs2



Joined: 05 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do people mean by its illegal to work in Korea without a degree? First of all I know you can get a 12 month working visa without a degree, this applies for Australians (myself) and also I think UK, US, Canada and New Zealand.

With teaching, first of all you could do private tuition without a degree. Secondly couldn't you do part time work with a degree as well?
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgs2 wrote:
What do people mean by its illegal to work in Korea without a degree? First of all I know you can get a 12 month working visa without a degree, this applies for Australians (myself) and also I think UK, US, Canada and New Zealand.

With teaching, first of all you could do private tuition without a degree. Secondly couldn't you do part time work with a degree as well?


What they mean is that you cannot get an E-2 visa without a degree, and you cannot work with out a visa, so you cannot work without a degree... unless you are working illegally.

Private tutoring (I think that's what you mean) or any other type of work is illegal without SOME type of visa, and it's illegal on an E-2 anyway even with the visa.

And no, you cannot get a 12 month teaching visa without a degree, regardless of your country of origin. What visa type are you talking about? Entertainment?
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mgs2



Joined: 05 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe you are correct. Have a look here http://www.anyworkanywhere.com/whv_kr.html. It specifically says citizens of some specific countries, including mine (Australia), and the working holiday visa for 12 months does not require a degree.

This is quiet logical, why would Korea restrict people coming to its country which would benefit its economy. Numerous young people who haven't yet finished a degree would want to come to Asia, and naturally Korea would not want to be exempt from thos benefits.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgs2 wrote:
I don't believe you are correct. Have a look here http://www.anyworkanywhere.com/whv_kr.html. It specifically says citizens of some specific countries, including mine (Australia), and the working holiday visa for 12 months does not require a degree.

This is quiet logical, why would Korea restrict people coming to its country which would benefit its economy. Numerous young people who haven't yet finished a degree would want to come to Asia, and naturally Korea would not want to be exempt from thos benefits.


I clicked, and it said, wrong page.

But if you are more willing to believe a random web page than the KOREAN IMMIGRATION, go ahead.


Just for kicks, I looked around the webpage to find the right spot, and plugged in the info. I even put in Austrailian for you. It says you can get a working holiday VISA if you are ELIGIBLE. Now, those visas still limit the work you can do, which does not include teaching if you cannot meet E-2 requirements.

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South Korea
-Citizens of Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, New Zealand and the United States who are between the ages of 18 and 30 are eligible for a South Korean working holiday visa (H-1 visa).
-The visa is valid for 12 months (18 months for the US citizens)
-A working holiday visa holders cannot be employed in certain job such as receptionist, dancer, singer, musician, acrobat, or in places of entertainment where they may endanger good morals and manners.
-To teach a foreign language the same qualification requirements as a "E-2 Language instructor visa" applies and permission must be granted by the chief of immigration office.


Point remains, you still have to have the right degree to teach.

In all honesty, I think you are confusing a tourist visa with a working holiday visa, which I can understand. Too many visas get really confusing these days.

Tourist visa - good for 30-90 days generally depending on country, not allowed to work, needs no documentation for certain countries

Working holiday visa - good for 12 months (18 months for Americans), limits on age, allowed to work some jobs to a point, needs documentation depending on jobs, needs FINANCIAL documentation, and will still get you deported if you get caught teaching without the proper visa
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mgs2



Joined: 05 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes this is for a 12 month working holiday visa, not to be confused with a tourist visa. I'll try the link again: http://www.anyworkanywhere.com/whv_kr.html if that doesn't work try this, http://www.anyworkanywhere.com/visas_kr.html then click on "South Korea Working Holiday Visas". Here if the info from the page:

South Korea Working Holiday Visa Information

South Korea has Working Holiday Agreements with Australia, Canada, Japan And New Zealand issuing visa that are valid for one year (12 months)

Requirements;

* Must a citizen of one of the above countries residing in that country at the time of application

* Intend primarily to holiday in the Republic of Korea and also to engage in employment as an incidental aspect of that holiday in order to supplement travel expenses.

* Aged between 18 to 30 years.

* Be without accompanying dependent

* Possess Return travel ticket and sufficient funds

* Have Touring schedule and touring activities

* Possess valid Passport


Beyond this validation, I've also applied for an internship through my university to work in Korea for 2 months. This internship does not require a completed university degree.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgs2 wrote:
Yes this is for a 12 month working holiday visa, not to be confused with a tourist visa. I'll try the link again: http://www.anyworkanywhere.com/whv_kr.html if that doesn't work try this, http://www.anyworkanywhere.com/visas_kr.html then click on "South Korea Working Holiday Visas". Here if the info from the page:

South Korea Working Holiday Visa Information

South Korea has Working Holiday Agreements with Australia, Canada, Japan And New Zealand issuing visa that are valid for one year (12 months)

Requirements;

* Must a citizen of one of the above countries residing in that country at the time of application

* Intend primarily to holiday in the Republic of Korea and also to engage in employment as an incidental aspect of that holiday in order to supplement travel expenses.

* Aged between 18 to 30 years.

* Be without accompanying dependent

* Possess Return travel ticket and sufficient funds

* Have Touring schedule and touring activities

* Possess valid Passport


Beyond this validation, I've also applied for an internship through my university to work in Korea for 2 months. This internship does not require a completed university degree.


An internship is not work, it's sponsored by a school in your case.

But what you are talking about is an H-1, not an internship. And as you said above, you have to have a touring schedule, touring activities planned, and sufficient funds before you can get your H-1.

AND if you want to teach, you still need your degree.

So, as I said before, are you going to trust a random website, or KOREA?
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mgs2



Joined: 05 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well first of all the internship is not sponsored by my school its actually sponsored by Korean business such as Hyundai or Samsung, whichever business we're put with.

With respect to the 12 month working holiday visa, are you saying that you think that the website is inaccurate? In that the 12 month working holiday visa also does require a degree?
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgs2 wrote:
Well first of all the internship is not sponsored by my school its actually sponsored by Korean business such as Hyundai or Samsung, whichever business we're put with.

With respect to the 12 month working holiday visa, are you saying that you think that the website is inaccurate? In that the 12 month working holiday visa also does require a degree?


Your school has nothing to do with your intership? Ok, my bad. But you're not on an E-2 anyway.

This is what the immigration website for korea says.

Quote:
Working Holiday (H-1) Visa - Required Documents: 1. Round Trip Flight Ticket, 2. Documetns proving Possession of Expenses for certain Period (3 Months) 3. Plan of Sightseeing and Activities, etc. *Since the primary Purpose of Working Holiday (H-1) Visa is Sightseeing, Holders cannot concentrate on Employment. Also, long-term Employment (more than 3 Months) at a single Business is restricted. It should be aware than Employment to the follwing Jobs is restricted as well. 1. Working as Waiter, Dancer, Singer, Musician, or a Acrobat at amusment places 2. Foreign Language Teaching Status (E-2) 3. Education, Training other than regular Korean Courses (3 months) 4. Activities against Idea of Agreement (news Coverage, Religion, Research, Technical Instruction, etc)


So, your website is only half-truth. You can work, but only very limited jobs. AND YOU CANNOT TEACH. Which is what we are talking about, you cannot get a teaching visa without a degree. Acutally, looking at 3 and 4, you couldn't do an internship on this either, but I'm sure you are not talking about doing this for yourself.
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sinister



Joined: 13 Apr 2009
Location: Bupyeong

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: F-4 visa in korea Reply with quote

According to the US embassy, you don't need a degree to work in hagwons as a teacher with an F4 visa. The only thing you can't do is hold a blue collar job. Although working is not required, if you do, it has to be a white collar job. Many hagwons in korea list their jobs as minimum BA/BS probably because they are listing for E-2 visa holders.
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