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oskinny1
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!
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 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I just have to wonder if there are any loyal men out there. Seems everyone I date is always on the lookout for his next girlfriend. I am not saying that women are better - but I am not looking to date a woman! I could never imagine cheating or lying to someone I realy love. When I am in love I can't even think about other men.
I guess my question is... where are all the good guys and how do I find one? |
How female  
Sweetheart there are many good and loyal men around. Its just that you probably consider them "too nice". |
I can't even count how many times girls have said to me they wish they could meet a guy just like me, then go off and date some a$$hole. Maybe if many girls weren't so thick they would notice a good thing (me) when they see it and then actually have some commonsense, but I think that is asking too much.
Yes, I am getting to(or at that) that bitter stage |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| oskinny1 wrote: |
| nautilus wrote: |
| Canadagirl wrote: |
I just have to wonder if there are any loyal men out there. Seems everyone I date is always on the lookout for his next girlfriend. I am not saying that women are better - but I am not looking to date a woman! I could never imagine cheating or lying to someone I realy love. When I am in love I can't even think about other men.
I guess my question is... where are all the good guys and how do I find one? |
How female
Sweetheart there are many good and loyal men around. Its just that you probably consider them "too nice". |
I can't even count how many times girls have said to me they wish they could meet a guy just like me, then go off and date some a$$hole. Maybe if many girls weren't so thick they would notice a good thing (me) when they see it and then actually have some commonsense, but I think that is asking too much.
Yes, I am getting to(or at that) that bitter stage |
Well, if someone isn't cautious about the person they're dating, then the results can end up that way. I have a friend who so much wanted to assume some guy was good for her. I tried to warn her but to no avail.
I am glad she had the experience. Some of the girls don't really realize the guys are jerks, but if they took more time to get to know the guy and know more about his background, there won't be a guarantee that they have a loyal, honest dude. If you don't really take the time to know someone, or at least have your friends check him out before you get too serious with the guy, then it is like buying a car and then complaining about getting a lemon. Many of us guys do get girls who turned out to be pretty bad. It hasn't happened to me. I am not complaining. I've met nice girls. I don't bother with girls who don't want nice guys and are more into the high flying night scene. I like the night scene with trustworthy lads and mates as friends, and a girl I know won't be like sporting Jenny in the Whisky in the Jar song. |
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mikowee
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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| What do you mean by pig? If you just mean wandering eyes, that's not a pig. That's just having a *beep*. Men require visual stimulus for excitement, I don't see anything wrong with catering to that need. |
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Are they the lemmings
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.
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| It depends on what the meaning of the word 'are' is. If the�if he�if 'are' means are and never have been, that is not�that is one thing. If it means there are none, that was a completely true statement. |
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Pateach
Joined: 11 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: Men and women |
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Interesting thread.
Apparently, I am a pretty predator (who knew?)
I am trying to tame men with my morality (the nun who kicked me out of C.C.D would be so proud  ).
And I would never like man who was "too nice."
Yep, we chicks are certainly all alike. And out to screw you.
You're not getting paranoid or anything .... |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| If you don't really take the time to know someone, or at least have your friends check him out before you get too serious with the guy, then it is like buying a car and then complaining about getting a lemon.. |
Number one, as politely as I can, let me point out that guys are not cars, and neither are gals. Not at all the best analogy you might have come up with, but that's okay, nobody gets lucky all the time ... Basically, how people are with casual acquaintances and drinking friends is not always a good indicator of how they will behave in a connected relationship.
There's also the wild card factor that when two people find they are important to each other they sometimes clean up their act, and become the kind of people they always wanted to be ...
My favorite line from a movie, Jack Nicholson to Helen Hunt in As Good As It Gets : "You make me want to be a better man."
Of course, I think about 30 seconds after that line he asks her, over New England lobster, if she'd like to fuck ... yeah, we are are pigs, but we can get better, sometimes. In the end, maybe that's what it's all about ... |
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| Number one, as politely as I can, let me point out that guys are not cars, and neither are gals. |
Both are objects of desire. Spare us the quibbles. |
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tareze
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Location: north or south of a river
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: |
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speaking of eye candy...did anyone see 300?
good movie? no, not really but visually *stunning*!
beautiful men (meh on the old guy with the beard but the sons oh wow) running around in leather panties looking like oiled greek statues....
guys, if you've got a rough n tumble style girl, take her to that movie and i'm sure you'll have a lovely evening after  |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| luvnpeas wrote: |
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| Number one, as politely as I can, let me point out that guys are not cars, and neither are gals. |
Both are objects of desire. Spare us the quibbles. |
Human beings are just a little bit more than that, and that's not a quibble. If you really believe otherwise, you have the mind and heart and soul of a 14-year-old.
Grow up. If there is any kind way for me to mean that, then please accept that that is how I intend it. |
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mlomker
Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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| Human beings are just a little bit more than that, and that's not a quibble. |
That's because people can be higher maintenance and don't come with warranties, right?
I have trouble taking any thread of this nature very seriously...perhaps you shouldn't either.
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| I've encountered evidence that homosexual men possess even more ravenous libibos than straight guys. |
That hasn't been my observation. I think there are more relationships where outside sex is permitted. It doesn't seem to help or detract in how long the primary relationship lasts, which is interesting in itself.
As far as wondering eyes are concerned, I don't look around very much if my needs are being met. It seems that many of my relationships border on chastity, though.  |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Only the ones who talk about buying a strip club. Is there anyone here who's discussed that lately? |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
| If you don't really take the time to know someone, or at least have your friends check him out before you get too serious with the guy, then it is like buying a car and then complaining about getting a lemon.. |
Number one, as politely as I can, let me point out that guys are not cars, and neither are gals. Not at all the best analogy you might have come up with, but that's okay, nobody gets lucky all the time ... Basically, how people are with casual acquaintances and drinking friends is not always a good indicator of how they will behave in a connected relationship.
There's also the wild card factor that when two people find they are important to each other they sometimes clean up their act, and become the kind of people they always wanted to be ...
My favorite line from a movie, Jack Nicholson to Helen Hunt in As Good As It Gets : "You make me want to be a better man."
Of course, I think about 30 seconds after that line he asks her, over New England lobster, if she'd like to fuck ... yeah, we are are pigs, but we can get better, sometimes. In the end, maybe that's what it's all about ... |
I agree with much of this and the "wild card factor" reminds of a little poem by A.E. Housman (one of my favorite poets)
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Oh, when I was in love with you,
Then I was clean and brave,
And miles around the wonder grew
How well did I behave.
And now the fancy passes by,
And nothing will remain,
And miles around they'll say that I
Am quite myself again.
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| The Bobster wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
| If you don't really take the time to know someone, or at least have your friends check him out before you get too serious with the guy, then it is like buying a car and then complaining about getting a lemon.. |
Number one, as politely as I can, let me point out that guys are not cars, and neither are gals. Not at all the best analogy you might have come up with, but that's okay, nobody gets lucky all the time ... Basically, how people are with casual acquaintances and drinking friends is not always a good indicator of how they will behave in a connected relationship.
There's also the wild card factor that when two people find they are important to each other they sometimes clean up their act, and become the kind of people they always wanted to be ...
My favorite line from a movie, Jack Nicholson to Helen Hunt in As Good As It Gets : "You make me want to be a better man."
Of course, I think about 30 seconds after that line he asks her, over New England lobster, if she'd like to fuck ... yeah, we are are pigs, but we can get better, sometimes. In the end, maybe that's what it's all about ... |
I agree with much of this and the "wild card factor" reminds of a little poem by A.E. Housman (one of my favorite poets)
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Oh, when I was in love with you,
Then I was clean and brave,
And miles around the wonder grew
How well did I behave.
And now the fancy passes by,
And nothing will remain,
And miles around they'll say that I
Am quite myself again.
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It's a sad poem, as most of Housman's are, I recall.
Love is not a "fancy." Love is not something that passes and is gone. It's a disease that takes you over and makes you healthier and stronger. If you are lucky.
But I've been wrong before, and maybe I'm wrong this time, too. Hope not ... |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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That's because people can be higher maintenance and don't come with warranties, right?
I have trouble taking any thread of this nature very seriously...perhaps you shouldn't either. |
You are probably right. I've been accused of taking things too seriously in the past, and on reflection, later understood it was true ...
On the other hand, I am a man, a very central and core part of my personal identity. And, like most of my species, it likely means I am a pig. A certain amount of that is unavoidable ...
But not all all of it. There is a certain amount of it I do have the ability to to alter. If I want to. And if I have the time and the inclination, why not give it a shot? If finding a good woman and wanting to be better for her is not a bad thing for her or for me ... where's the downside? I don't see it.
If you can help me out with this, go ahead ...
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
| luvnpeas wrote: |
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| Number one, as politely as I can, let me point out that guys are not cars, and neither are gals. |
Both are objects of desire. Spare us the quibbles. |
Human beings are just a little bit more than that, and that's not a quibble. If you really believe otherwise, you have the mind and heart and soul of a 14-year-old. |
Oh, yah, you're really mature. Name caller. You act like a thirteen-year-old. Dork.
Nyah nyah nyah.
You s u c k.
Dork. |
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