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[pest2]

All jokes aside, I do have a buddy who only dates Asian women. He's an army dude who's been here for 4 years, now.

He had a live in Korean GF for 2 years who wasn't too bad lookin but she dumped him for a richer white dude. Then, he meets all these skanky K girls who are impressed by his apartment (its the nicest place I've seen in Korea -- and 2,500$ a month -- good to know what my tax money is being used for) and jump his bones for one-night stands right and left but maybe wont tell mom or dad about him. He has a terrible time trying to meet a real life-long partner, here. Seems like he doesnt like women who wanna use him for money or Englishee practice even if they're putting out in exchange... Sorta the way most women here operate, though...

I keep telling him, "dude, why dont you just give up on Korean/Asian-native women? Maybe they just wont work out for you.."

He's like, "no no no! Im in Asia and while I'm here I want to date Asian women!"

So I back off on that topic... whatevah....

[peachgaru]

^ I don't mind guys who date only Asian chicks. Its their choice. The guy you describe sounds very silly, but as long as he's happy with his choice, I'm fine.

What I don't like is when men on this board have..almost an agenda. of putting down Western women and making gross exaggerations of our hag-status and Korean hotness. Its fine if you think Korean women are hot, but there seems to be a chip on some shoulders. For instance, you would never tell the pudgy girl that she is fat. Now that would just be rude and unnecessary to hurt her feelings, right? Well, why is it that every time the subject of western women, western women dating Korean men, or Korean women arises, someone feels the need to belittle w. women for their fatness, "masculine ways," etc? Is it really necessary to polarize w. women and k. women? I also noticed that Korean men are continually put down on this board, while Korean women are treated like some goddess-like beings.

As someone who has lived with many Korean females while naturally having the perspective of a Caucasian American woman, I have to say that many of the men on this board are incredibly naive when it comes to women. First of all, being attractive takes work. I don't care who you are, if you put forth effort, you can be at least moderately attractive. No matter how blessed you are with natural beauty, if you do not take care of yourself, you will not be attractive.

Furthermore, beauty can be bought. Believe it. Look at the before pictures of practically any k star. You are living in the plastic surgery capital of the world and believe me, many, many do get it. Of all my Korean friends, only a few have resisted the eye job. Others have more. It is similar to the US in the 50s when women were pressured to look their best at all times. I'm not claiming that Korean women need plastic surgery bc they are unattractive. They undergo surgery due to the pressures in their society. This does not exclude American women. I go to a very wealthy university and many of the wealthier girls here have had nose jobs, boob jobs, and procedures that most girls can not afford. Look at before pictures of Halle Berry or Catherine Zeta Jones for further proof.

Being a beautiful woman is usually narrowed down to time, effort, and money. For girls like me who don't have the money, time, or willingness to bother with it all, of course we're gonna look shabbier by comparison.

I admit that many Western women do not take care of themselves. They overeat and care little for how they are dressed. Therefore, I believe that men on this board have every right to generalize and claim that Korean women are more attractive. But it is when they claim that Korean women are inherently more feminine, attractive, kind, desirable, etc. and western women are inferior butchy beasts, it becomes a big joke to me. K women work their *sses off to be pretty. You're comparing women who unfortunately, often do not try at all to women who are under intense pressure to take meticulous care of their appearances.

I'll end this by saying that the innocence is also too often an illusion. Many are sweet and docile in the public domain, but I am a witness of domestic abuse between Koreans on two accounts, and believe me, it was not the guy beating the girl.

Once again, I'm not claiming that all korean women beat their boyfriends or get plastic surgery, but I just want to prove that you can't generalize by race and that things (particularly with women..masters of illusion I swear) are not always as simplistic as they seem.

This really wasn't the thread for this rant, but some of the things I've read in other threads...especially the ones which pick apart the flaws of Korean men while celebrating the virtues of Korean women..really bother me.

I realize I have not written anything that you didn't already know or divulged any secrets of women. I think most men know this stuff. Just needed to rant bc some the gross caricatures of ugly w. woman vs. hot k. woman remind me of thigh school boys.

What I'm curious to know is the ratio of foreign men to foreign women working in Korea. There seems to be a majority of white males. And placed in a patriarchal society where women are subordinated and pressured to become stepford wives, Seoul seems to be a perfect breeding ground for this type of commentary.


EDIT: Upon reading through this thread again, I realize that most of it was very positive. What mostly bothered me is that Natalie would have to ask this question in the first place. If she's like me, she's probably drawn the impression that all men in sk go for korean women only bc of the many negative threads and comments devoted to w. women. plus a couple of the unnecessary comments about us being fat helped.

[Natalie]

PeachGaru: you hit the nail on the head well said.

Far too many people generalize far too much everywhere in the world. But you'd like to think that the young people that are open minded enough to come to an Asian country to teach and live long term would be able to resist...

fat, slim, asian, caucasian, tall, short, blonde, brunette: its all good, its peas and carrots

haha, would love to write something more profound but its 4am, time to sleep.

[pest2]

[Qinella]

[Hollywoodaction]

[Canadian Club]

I still want pics!