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[Pak Yu Man]

[Cheonmunka]

I stayed in a Korean owned hotel in Saipan. I was at the pool and there was a side-pool that had a piece of trash in it. It looked out of place.
A Korean man was walking around and barked an order at the Philippino worker. Later, the worker walked near me and started to chat. I asked him, maybe rudely, 'Why don't you clean the pool?' His answer made me think he didn't really care. 'Oh, yeah, sometimes we clean the pool.' I'm like, 'Hello, pool-cleaner-doud?'

Anyway, we talked about his plan to work ($3.50 p/hr) in Saipan for three years then buy a house and business so semi-retire back home in the Philippines!
Wish I could do that.
I also asked him about the Korean boss. He didn't really care about that, either.

My brother in law wrote a letter to the ed in the the Chosun Ilbo about how he thought his fellow Korean travellers should shape up their style of international travelling etiquette. But, for me, when I'm on a plane it makes sense actually to remove your long pants and put on some beach shorts when decending into the tropics. Maybe my bro wrote his letter about that to show me his westernized style ...

PS: I watched the program about the young guys getting sent off to Philippines to study. It was also about how the young Korean high schoolers, and sometimes middle schoolers lost their virginities to prostitutes. The program was like, 'Beware of what your sons are doing.'

I think we've gotta think about ways both ways. My wife went shopping in NZ for clothes. She was in the shop for 5 mins by herself with no service. I walked in. The sales clerk greets me friendly, 'Hi.'

I've never had the experince like the Korean shop in India. In NZ Korean people think it's quite funny when I use their Korean community services. But they don't deny me the right. Korean made is quite good. I prefer it than Chinese brands, for example. What's the problem with buying Korean-made or New Zealand-made for that matter? NZ brings in a nationalist slant when it tells its citizens to, 'Buy NZ Made.

Even this website is an expression of our western centered universe here in Korea. Most of us don't exactly have many Korean friends apart from a few co-workers or family members and their friends. So, we are kind of insular, too.

[kigolo1881]

I'm sorry, but your post jumps from one example to another without any correlation.

[Cheonmunka]

I don't bother putting other people's quotes between paragraphs. My paragraphs are impressions from others' posts. So, if you have read all the other posts you would see mine are reactions to what others have said.
It's really hard to go into detail again and again. I hope you may have gained a little impression from one or two of mine. Mostly you may see that I disagree with the Korea bashing. Korean tourists often get ripped off in the Philippines. I've heard a lot of primary source stories like that. The Philippine workers that I met were quite lazy and non-chalant - hence their low wages - but actually their wages are relatively high.
It was said in several posts that Koreans are rude and insulting to theose workers, but actually I was a little bit, too. I was a little surprised that the worker I met wasn't doing his job very well at all so understood the barking he got from the Korean manager.
I heard from sister in laws about one of her friends who asked directions and were directed by some Philippine police to go a certain route and then were held up in an alley by those same cops and robbed.

My wife went to NZ and encountered racism.

These are all impressions I have to stave off the 'Koreans are sh1tty racist people' remarks.

PS: My bro's westernized style is not stripping on a plane like other Koreans.

PPS: The buy Korean made is a reaction to the guy who said his boss was pitiful or something for only choosing a Korean-made product.

[taobenli]

Hmmm...I also can't really follow your posts. Sorry.

And I don't think this thread is about "All Koreans are racist, shitty people." It is instead about Koreans traveling overseas and the general lack or recognition from some of these Koreans that their behaviours reflect badly on Korea as a country. Thinks about it: if you were a low-wage Thai worker and the handful of Koreans you had met had all treated you like crap, would you have a good impression of Korea? And why should you? Also, in general I think that poor service while traveling is a good reason to complain, but not to "bark orders." When I encounter rude people in the service industry in Korea (and I encounter them all the time) I don't order them around (usually they just lose my business) and I don't paint all other Koreans with the same brush. As Koreans become widely traveled, perhaps they too should think of the consequences of their behaviour. That's all.

[Hosub]

Funny, I thought the stereotype of the archetypal rude tourist was the American. Surprise surprise. Time to churn some butter and chew some bubblegum.

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