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For the Men: Do You Want Babies? Why or Why Not?
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Yeah, I have kids now.
Yeah, I hope to have kids someday.
58%
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Good God, no. And if they sit next to me on the plane, drug them please.
17%
 17%  [ 11 ]
No. I'm all about me and my simple life.
23%
 23%  [ 15 ]
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Manner of Speaking



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what would be cool?

If there was such a thing as a 'parent apprentice' program. A guy - or a couple - who're getting married in a year or so, is matched with a recent father (or couple) who now has a 2 or 3 year old. The 'apprentice(s)' comes over say, 4 or 5 hours a week, helps with taking care of the kid, goes through much of the same stuff that the new daddy/parent is going through, for about six months to a year. Then, when the apprentice(s) get married and have their kids, they themselves are matched with a new apprentice.

The apprentice(s) get to learn how to raise and take care of kids, and find out what to expect when they start their own families.

The new parents get help, moral support, and someone to talk to while they are going through the early stages of being parents.

And both get to make some new friends.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manner of Speaking wrote:
If men make up for this inability through creative work...how do you explain the fact that so many men do little or no creative work whatsoever. Laughing


The fact that the public school system in most countries does so little to cultivate creativity.
If you have ever tried to get your English students to do any creative writing, you probably know what I mean.

I'm responding to your question, not attacking you.
Your apprenticeship proposal seems like a good idea.
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Manner of Speaking



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
Manner of Speaking wrote:
If men make up for this inability through creative work...how do you explain the fact that so many men do little or no creative work whatsoever. Laughing


The fact that the public school system in most countries does so little to cultivate creativity.
If you have ever tried to get your English students to do any creative writing, you probably know what I mean.

I'm responding to your question, not attacking you.
Your apprenticeship proposal seems like a good idea.

Thanks! Smile
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manner of Speaking wrote:
You know what would be cool?

If there was such a thing as a 'parent apprentice' program.

Sounds okay, until you realize that the mentor couple has to know what the *beep* they're doing first. ie People like Britney shouldn't be parents at all, nevermind mentoring someone else.
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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
Manner of Speaking wrote:
You know what would be cool?

If there was such a thing as a 'parent apprentice' program.

Sounds okay, until you realize that the mentor couple has to know what the *beep* they're doing first. ie People like Britney shouldn't be parents at all, nevermind mentoring someone else.


YF,

True enough...there would have to be some kinks and logistical problems to work out for it to be effective. I suppose after the first 'generation' of apprentices have gone through the program, then it would be a bit more stable and the mentor couple would know what they're doing. It would also probably be more effective if it was organized through local organizations; a university faculty union, for example, where at least one member of the mentor couple and one member of the apprentice couple are professors.

I remember about 10 years ago or so, I read an article in my hometown newspaper about an experiment done at Mount Saint Vincent university in Canada. A group of expectant parents were asked to take a 2-hour 'exam' on parenting. Most of the participants found the exam difficult but a great idea, because it made them think about a lot of things concerning parenting that they hadn't considered before.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be nice if it happened but not willing to succumb to the utter misery that some of my friends live on a daily basis. If i can find a way to work around that, i will.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To say that when you get married and have children, your freedom goes out the door is naive and indicitive of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Especially the having kids part. Having a child adds to your life in the beginning. You don't add to to the child's life. Parents who enjoy traveling and having fun are still able to do so, just maybe not as spontaneously as in the past. I love it when people seem to think that having family equates to some kind of social suicide ... it doesn't at all, although priorities change.

My wife and I still enjoy hiking, eating out, traveling and doing all the other sorts of stuff we did before baby, except now, baby comes along. It just takes a little more planning and a few compromises, but we're not all shacked up at home 24/7, waiting until baby becomes a teenager so that we can go out and do things.


Dead on target.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but we're not all shacked up at home 24/7, waiting until baby becomes a teenager so that we can go out and do things

All the while some posts from this board tell us that we are irresponsible for eating out at restaurants with other customers and for taking our sleepless ones for a walk to Homever at 10 pm. Rolling Eyes
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
All the while some posts from this board tell us that we are irresponsible for eating out at restaurants with other customers


Not irresponsible, inconsiderate. And that only when the children are making a lot of noise or running around.
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