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vertical loser
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| nautilus wrote: |
What seems obvious is that sporting prowess follows economic growth.
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Very simplistic. Why has China won so many medals and India only one gold in its whole history? Both a huge, poor countries growing very fast economically.
The answer is that the Olympics has been seized upon, as usual, by an authoritarian goverment as an opportunity to solidify its power base, promote economic growth, reinforce an ideology (Market leninism) and polish the collective national erection. The complete polticisation of the Olympic concept in China is the most obvious feature of the 2008 games.
The Olympics are finished, unless someone stops this rot. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| vertical loser wrote: |
| nautilus wrote: |
What seems obvious is that sporting prowess follows economic growth.
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Very simplistic. Why has China won so many medals and India only one gold in its whole history? Both a huge, poor countries growing very fast economically.
The answer is that the Olympics has been seized upon, as usual, by an authoritarian goverment as an opportunity to solidify its power base, promote economic growth, reinforce an ideology (Market leninism) and polish the collective national erection. The complete polticisation of the Olympic concept in China is the most obvious feature of the 2008 games.
The Olympics are finished, unless someone stops this rot. |
Wasn't it the same in ancient Greece? |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
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In addition, there are discrepencies for age limits as some sports like gymnastics require a minimum of 16 years whereas there are no limits for divers as in the case of the 14 year old Brit.
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Look at the Chinese "women" gymnasts. Here is a quote out of a SI/CNN article:
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And we do mean young. Their passports are issued by a Chinese government that is very, very interested in winning lots and lots of gold medals, so while they may say they're 15 or 16, five of the six team members have the appearance of pre-pubescent children. "The little babies," is how U.S. coach Martha Karolyi refers to the Chinese gymnasts when speaking to her team, and they certainly are little. Li Shanshan (16) is 4-foot-9, 79 pounds. Yang Yilin (15) is 4-foot-11, 77 pounds. He Kexin (16) is 4-foot-8, 73 pounds. Jiang Yuyuan (16) is 4-foot-7, 71 pounds. But the prize goes to Deng Linlin (16), who's listed at 4-foot-6 and a strapping 68 pounds. She could take a nap in Yao Ming's sneaker. Poor thing's also missing a tooth. Please, someone send baby food.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/olympics/2008/writers/em_swift/08/13/china.us/index.html?cnn=yes
Another interesting one:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/sports/olympics/27gymnasts.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1218621681-0TWauJtCzBM5UMkRFRUDHw |
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MANDRL
Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Check out this video of a Hungarian weightlifter at the Olympics. The video is not for the faint of heart.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=151313 |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Mega ouch!!
I love how the chinese are ready for it!! With screens to block out the nastiness!! |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Mega ouch!!
I love how the chinese are ready for it!! With screens to block out the nastiness!! |
Wowowowow!!
I think he had placed his hands too far apart for the lift.
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MANDRL
Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| Did China gear up for these games by deciding to dominate shooting and weightlifting? I know they want to try and win the total medal count battle, being the host country and all, so it seems like they have really concentrated at killing the competition in these events. As of today they have a total of 14 medals combined in those event, 10 of those medals being gold. |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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found it interesting that the Korean commentators were talking about how they were robbed in the last individual mens gymnastics by a referee, and that the guy was having a great round and going to finally get the gold he deserved.
then they didnt even make it into the rankings.
was it really necessary to talk about the issue of the last games like that??
seems like Karma |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Check this out! Bitter loser throws his bronze medal onto the ground!!!
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Iuo3JT-aM
Angry Swede throws down medal and quits
Thu 14 Aug, 02:52 PM
BEIJING (Reuters) - Swedish wrestler Ara Abrahamian threw down his Olympic bronze medal in protest on Thursday after his bid for greco-roman gold was ended by a decision denounced by the Swedish coach as "politics".
Abrahamian took the bronze from around his neck during the medal ceremony, stepped from the podium and dropped it in the middle of the wrestling mat then walked off.
"I don't care about this medal. I wanted gold," he said. |
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MANDRL
Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
Check this out! Bitter loser throws his bronze medal onto the ground!!!
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Iuo3JT-aM
Angry Swede throws down medal and quits
Thu 14 Aug, 02:52 PM
BEIJING (Reuters) - Swedish wrestler Ara Abrahamian threw down his Olympic bronze medal in protest on Thursday after his bid for greco-roman gold was ended by a decision denounced by the Swedish coach as "politics".
Abrahamian took the bronze from around his neck during the medal ceremony, stepped from the podium and dropped it in the middle of the wrestling mat then walked off.
"I don't care about this medal. I wanted gold," he said. |
Horrible sportsmanship............actually that is about spot on of what I would do.  |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Second place is first place for losers.
I don't wanna live under a red Chinese sun. |
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Privateer
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| Does anyone know a good place/site/channel for watching the Olympics on? If so, please share. We're getting very good coverage of every event with Korean participation, endless repeats of their golds, a bit of Phelps and very little else. I want to see some track and field!!! Not to mention cycling! |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| Privateer wrote: |
| Does anyone know a good place/site/channel for watching the Olympics on? If so, please share. We're getting very good coverage of every event with Korean participation, endless repeats of their golds, a bit of Phelps and very little else. I want to see some track and field!!! Not to mention cycling! |
Mens 100m final, tonight 11.30 our time. 
Korea has slipped to 6th overall in the medal standings!!!
One place behind Japan! Oh the shame!
.....Because the olympics is not only about archery..... |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
Mens 100m final, tonight 11.30 our time.
Korea has slipped to 6th overall in the medal standings!!!
One place behind Japan! Oh the shame!
.....Because the olympics is not only about archery..... |
Well, it depends on how you look at it. Are you counting the number of gold medals or total medals won?
If you're counting gold medals, Japan is ahead 7-6, but if you're counting ALL medals, Korea is ahead 19-17.
China is ahead in gold, but the US is ahead in total medals.
Guess it's where you're from that determines which one you choose. |
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wawawawonder
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
Mens 100m final, tonight 11.30 our time.
Korea has slipped to 6th overall in the medal standings!!!
One place behind Japan! Oh the shame!
.....Because the olympics is not only about archery..... |
Well, it depends on how you look at it. Are you counting the number of gold medals or total medals won?
If you're counting gold medals, Japan is ahead 7-6, but if you're counting ALL medals, Korea is ahead 19-17.
China is ahead in gold, but the US is ahead in total medals.
Guess it's where you're from that determines which one you choose. |
Well, there's no question really. The medal table is decided by the number of golds first. Silver and bronze are achievements but consolation prizes, all the same. |
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