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[OnTheOtherSide]

Neither one of you is right, neither one of you is wrong. It depends on the circumstances and there is no absolute answer. Finish-ee.

[Triban]

[kabrams]

[asams]

I'm surprised this thread got as far as it did without a mod shutting it down. Some of our comments were pretty close to personal attacks

[Underwaterbob]

[Triban]

[Privateer]

If a woman was saying 'no, no' but "moaning amorously" and caressing me while she said it, I'd think it meant 'yes' but I'd be afraid to continue. I'd feel stupid asking her to clarify, and it would ruin the moment, but better safe than sorry...

The thing is, if she's really actually saying 'no' but meaning 'yes', asking 'Er, do you want me to stop?' probably wouldn't get an honest answer, because if she was ok with saying what she meant she wouldn't have said 'no' and meant 'yes' in the first place. On the other hand, if she meant 'no' (even though for some reason her body language didn't match her words), then you have to stop. So I guess since you can't be sure, the guy has to stop...

[earthbound14]

Late entry

It's rape if she says it's rape and if a court of law backs it up. However there is a claer difference between beating a woman into rape and simply ignoring a mild request to stop. One should be heavily punished while the other might only deserve a slap on the wrist (and honestly should not be wasting the courts time).

I for one think a woman has the right to say no at any time and thus stop the act (however far one may be into it).

However, some women still say 'no' when they mean 'yes'.

So a smart man should stop no matter what so as to avoid any potential BS with the law (or hurting a woman's feelings) and a smart women should not use the word 'no' lightly and should respect men as people deserving of clear communication.

[crossmr]

[The Gipkik]

[chnike112]

"50 no's and a yes means yes" - James Bond

[aboxofchocolates]

James bond is gross.

I forget what comic or whatever was telling some story about making out with this girl. She appeared to be into it, but then whenever he would get to handsy she would grab his hands and move them away. So they continued like that until she asked why he didn't want to have sex with her? He was confused, and said,"well, you were pushing me away so I assumed you didn't want to go that far" she said she thought it would be kinky if he forced her. He laughed and said " So, let me get this straight: you wanted me to hold you down and force you and for all I know rape a person on the off chance you might be into that sort of thing?" And he laughed some more and they no longer dated.

Point being, women are as potentially moronic about rape as anyone. And the women who do that are morally irresponsible. No is no, indicators of no are no, and you don't mess around with that. If you're into kinky stuff, there are safe words and whatever. There are certain desires we just don't indulge in because they are wrong. Encouraging someone else to risk raping another person is wrong.

[earthbound14]

[Joe666]

earthbound14 wrote:

[aboxofchocolates]

A person can be falsely accused of lots of things. You wouldn't suggest theft no longer be a crime just because someone could be falsely accused of theft. No, because someone can steal something from you. But because you are not likely to be raped, you are prepared to take power away from people who have legitimate rape accusations. I have nothing but sympathy for anyone falsely accused of anything. I don't think the possibility of people being falsely accused (in and of itself a crime) justifies limiting a person's ability to make the accusation, or re-defining the crime.