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le-paul
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Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies)
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"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches." In other words, Godwin put forth the sarcastic observation that, given enough time, all discussions�regardless of topic or scope�inevitably end up being about Hitler and the Nazis.
There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle itself is frequently referred to as Godwin's law. |
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travel zen
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Damn! you sound just like Himler and Eichmann ! and Hitler. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I love how in another 30 years Hitler will have moved form public enemy number one to some sort of Ghengis Khan type comedic-extreme villain that no one minds talking about or imitating. |
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The_slap_chop
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sergio Stefanuto
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| Koveras wrote: |
| I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords |
One should certainly look on the bright side - no more things like this:
Given the choice between living under Sharee'ah law and living under the rule of Western atheist liberals, I would choose Sharee'ah law every time and this would be the easiest choice I ever made! "But Western atheist liberals could never possibly achieve political power", you say. Oh, they could. They're unemployable, useless, idle loafers - perfect for politics. |
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Skipperoo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:01 am Post subject: |
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 outstanding. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| Koveras wrote: |
| I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords |
Given the choice between living under Sharee'ah law and living under the rule of Western atheist liberals, I would choose Sharee'ah law every time and this would be the easiest choice I ever made! "But Western atheist liberals could never possibly achieve political power", you say. Oh, they could. They're unemployable, useless, idle loafers - perfect for politics. |
lol..
I see you're in Saudi as we speak Sergio. If you're teaching the Saudi national curriculum, you might as well go back to the UK and teach it there at a Muslim school. Not sure if the pay is better though.
Anti-Semitic material/ Saudi Curriculum being taught in UK Schoolshttp://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=196322 |
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recessiontime
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:28 am Post subject: |
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serg: What you are doing is setting up a false dichotomy. You are saying that just because our legal system has some serious problems you rather take Sharia law. That's a logical fallacy. Obviously there are a range of choices like actually reforming the system so that simple accusal do not merit 5 months in jail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| Koveras wrote: |
| I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords |
One should certainly look on the bright side - no more things like this:
Given the choice between living under Sharee'ah law and living under the rule of Western atheist liberals, I would choose Sharee'ah law every time and this would be the easiest choice I ever made! "But Western atheist liberals could never possibly achieve political power", you say. Oh, they could. They're unemployable, useless, idle loafers - perfect for politics. |
You know, I never used to like you much, but I'm starting to come round. What kind of job skills are wanted in Saudi Arabia? I'm willing to consider anything, unless it involves going back to university. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| What kind of job skills are wanted in Saudi Arabia? I'm willing to consider anything, unless it involves going back to university. |
Saudi does not allow christians to work there. You have to fill in a form stating your religion in the application. Only western atheists get visas. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
serg: What you are doing is setting up a false dichotomy. You are saying that just because our legal system has some serious problems you rather take Sharia law. That's a logical fallacy. Obviously there are a range of choices like actually reforming the system so that simple accusal do not merit 5 months in jail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma |
My ideal society would be something of a mixture of the ideas of Adam Smith and Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab. Western atheist liberals would say that such a society sounds like their worst nightmare, but that's very much the idea.
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see you're in Saudi as we speak Sergio. If you're teaching the Saudi national curriculum, you might as well go back to the UK and teach it there at a Muslim school. Not sure if the pay is better though.
Anti-Semitic material/ Saudi Curriculum being taught in UK Schoolshttp://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=196322 |
If it's anti-semitism you're after, look no further than the British left
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| You know, I never used to like you much, but I'm starting to come round. What kind of job skills are wanted in Saudi Arabia? I'm willing to consider anything, unless it involves going back to university. |
There are billions of jobs. Any field. Take your pick. I teach English and Information Technology at a university |
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Tundra_Creature
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
If it's anti-semitism you're after, look no further than the British left |
Its not only anti-semitism. According to the panorama programme I saw 2 days ago, these secret schools across Britain are teaching that:-
* All kuffar (non-muslims) are the enemy
* All kuffar must be forced to walk on the outside when encountered on the pavement
* It is "highly sinful" to give refuge to people fleeing from sharia punishments in muslim countries
* music is evil, and so is involvement in any western popular culture
etc etc.
Its obvious that many muslims hold these opinions. You only have to notice the way they relate to non-muslims..
As far as I'm concerned, muslims are the only foreign culture failing to integrate into the west. What is needed are serious measures to break down their self-imposed segregation and genuinely assimilate them into the community. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| Koveras wrote: |
| What kind of job skills are wanted in Saudi Arabia? I'm willing to consider anything, unless it involves going back to university. |
Saudi does not allow christians to work there. You have to fill in a form stating your religion in the application. Only western atheists get visas. |
Even if this is true (and I'm not certain it is; I know non-Muslims can't enter certain cities, and that Christians aren't allowed to openly worship, but I think they can work in compounds), I wouldn't be particularly surprised if Koveras were to convert to Islam. A lot of the ideas he professes admiration for are at work in the Muslim world. He'd probably fit in pretty well. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| What is needed are serious measures to break down their self-imposed segregation and genuinely assimilate them into the community. |
What's needed is a different immigration policy, coupled with an incentive structure to get people who don't fit in to leave. There's no point in trying to force people to assimilate; it won't work, and the attempt will cause problems of its own. If a given group is unlikely to assimilate well, they needn't be invited at all. As standard of living rises, birth rates will drop off somewhat, so reduced immigration will need to be compensated for with incentives to increase birth rates and measures which ensure couples getting married and starting a life together is affordable. |
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