|
Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Poh*A*ng City
|
 Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:23 am Post subject: |
 |
|
Back them up? I already have, see:
http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ247.HTM
Do you read?
PS... your translations are WAAAY off base (but then again, so too is your understanding of Christianity, Catholicism, The Bible, and History, so its not really a shock):
Anti Christ: Middle English Antecrist, from Old French, and from Old English both from Late Latin Antichrstus, from Late Greek Antikhrstos : Greek anti-, anti- + Greek Khrstos, Christ; see Christ.]
Vicar: Middle English, from Old French vicaire, from Latin vicrius, vicarious, a substitute, from vicis, genitive of *vix, change. See weik-2 in Indo-European Roots |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:15 am Post subject: |
|
|
Despite the generosity with which I have endured and read your links (have you read mine, no), still not a single documented record of anyone being killed in this imaginary mass genocide you claim.
Your idea that Martin luther was a mass murderer doesn't stand up: the worst he did was express approval at the idea of catholics being expelled or made to worship elsewhere. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Poh*A*ng City
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
Are you serious? I"ve read every single one of your links... where do you think I get my ammunition, and as for there never having been a documented case of Luther murdered anyone, I'll repost something again:
There are others who teach in opposition to some recognised article of faith which is manifestly grounded on Scripture and is believed by good Christians all over the world, such as are taught to children in the Creed . . . Heretics of this sort must not be tolerated, but punished as open blasphemers . . . If anyone wishes to preach or to teach, let him make known the call or the command which impels him to do so, or else let him keep silence. If he will not keep quiet, then let the civil authorities command the scoundrel to his rightful master - namely, Master Hans [i.e., the hangman].
....some job you did reading. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="n3ptne"]
| Quote: |
Are you serious? I"ve read every single one of your links... where do you think I get my ammunition, and as for there never having been a documented case of Luther murdered anyone, I'll repost something again:
There are others who teach in opposition to some recognised article of faith which is manifestly grounded on Scripture and is believed by good Christians all over the world, such as are taught to children in the Creed . . . Heretics of this sort must not be tolerated, but punished as open blasphemers . . . If anyone wishes to preach or to teach, let him make known the call or the command which impels him to do so, or else let him keep silence. If he will not keep quiet, then let the civil authorities command the scoundrel to his rightful master - namely, Master Hans [i.e., the hangman]. |
That was a privately written opinion. Nobody died. These ideas were never put into action.
Where are these accepted, documented records of mass murder? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Poh*A*ng City
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Privately written opinion? Those were LUTHERS OWN WORDS YOU IDIOT! AND THEY WERE PUT INTO ACTION, HUNDREDS OF TIMES, CLICK AND READ THE POST! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
| n3ptne wrote: |
| Privately written opinion? Those were LUTHERS OWN WORDS YOU IDIOT! AND THEY WERE PUT INTO ACTION, HUNDREDS OF TIMES, CLICK AND READ THE POST! |
More profanity? I'm siding with Luthers idea of cutting out tongues all of a sudden...
Dude..it is not accepted historical fact that Luther or other Christians had people murdered.. what you have there is a series of unsubstantiated quotations.
On the other hand....the Pope-sanctioned crusades and massacre of St bartholomew for example are facts.
No true christian has killed other people for holding differing viewpoints. Look around you today. Protestant christian nations are the most tolerant on earth...all other religions can worship freelly. This is because of Christianity. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Poh*A*ng City
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
| So let me get this straight... Luther's own PERSONAL WORDS isn't substantiated? God you're dumb. I'm done with this post. You are beneath contempt. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| n3ptne wrote: |
| So let me get this straight... Luther's own PERSONAL WORDS isn't substantiated? God you're dumb. I'm done with this post. You are beneath contempt. |
What people say and what they do are two different things. There is no evidence for a massive genocide inspired by Martin Luther. Its simply not an historic fact. Your links are biased,concocted.
In any case...he was a human. A faulty human, a man.
He wasn't God.
So why are you judging Jesus based on one man's interpretation of him? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
| n3ptne wrote: |
| So let me get this straight... Luther's own PERSONAL WORDS isn't substantiated? God you're dumb. I'm done with this post. You are beneath contempt. |
Ive been following this without responding. And I too would like to see some more conclusive evidence for these so called Protestant atrocities. You've dished out quite a few "you're dumb" type remarks, but you're not looking too flash yourself here. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Gorgias
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
Relax friends!
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
philipjames
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
This thread has been great entertainment. But, inall honesty, I don't think anyone is going to pomote their case by arguing it any further.
Peoples' heels are dug in. Let's agree that hogwan owners are the antichrist and leave it at that. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Poh*A*ng City
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
The post that I have cited, which you call "biased" (which is a laughable word coming out of your mouth because every single one of your posts have been beyond bias, not to mention out right lies (circa tyndale/joan of arc being executed by the church)) was written by a PHD in theology.
That post, which I will not again cite or quote from, goes on to specifically demonstrate the mass murder of hundreds of innocent, peaceful Christians on the order and ideology of Martin Luther as a force of habit.
The citations in that post are not "bias", they aren't even "intreperations"... they are direct sources from the time, both by Luther and his contemporaries. I've yet to see any one of you fucks post a quote from the 1500s, a valid quote that is, and seen nothing but smoke and mirrors.
The Protestants are as guilty as the Catholics, be men and admit it. A simple google search on "PROTESTANT INQUISTIION" can provide all the information you need to validate my assertations, but will any of you do it? No, and you are truly pathetic Christians who will hold on and die for your false beliefs. Such is the sad state of our reality... Christianity has truly become a plague upon our species. So too has Islam and the other organized religions.
There is nothing worse than an ignorant Christian... not because Muslims are any better, but simply because there are more Christians. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:58 am Post subject: |
|
|
You scorn of others is ridiculous dude. You are a pompous twit...
-and easy to wind up too  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bee Positive
Joined: 27 Oct 2005
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| n3ptne wrote: |
Christianity has truly become a plague upon our species. So too has Islam and the other organized religions.
|
I invite you to prove that Islam, in particular, has "become a plague upon our species."
Not a Moslem myself, and not about to become one anytime soon, I nonetheless acknowledge that the Moslems of a millennium and a half ago practically invented Western civilization. They resurrected Plato and the other Greeks. They resurrected Euclid. They invented the public hospital, the public school, and the public library. They invented algebra. They raced centuries ahead of Dark Age Europe on an inspiration that began with the Prophet Muhammad. We can either in all fairness respect what they accomplished or churlishly insist on ignoring it. I respect the truth and so respect the Islamic achievement.
Please, I beg you, none of this nonsense about "suicide bombers." It's just too utterly presposterous that so many people are killing themselves. A bomb goes off in Israel, people die--and what do you know, THIS IS EXCELLENT P.R. FOR THE STATE OF ISRAEL!
Put it together, folks, please. What serves Israel, and the West, is likely as not Western-directed. Why so many Moslems should keep killing themselves to aggrandize Israel and its US sugar daddy is a question you shouldn't even be asking. Think outside the box. Bombs go off, Arabs get blamed: Arabs ARE NOT to blame. Get it? OK? Anyone home in there?
Moslems didn't benefit from 9/11. Israelis did. Get it? OK? Are you thinking yet about motive, means, and opportunity?
Prove that Islam is something bad and I'll accede to your point of view. It certainly won't have been the first time that I was forced to change my mind about something.
BEE POSITIVE
Islamophilic in Busan Gwangyeok-shi, I am your very own
BEE POSITIVE
Last edited by Bee Positive on Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:31 am; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bee Positive
Joined: 27 Oct 2005
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:17 am Post subject: proscribed or prescribed?--Exact opposites! |
|
|
| rapier wrote: |
B Positive wrote:
| Quote: |
| Protestantism didn't get started until 1500 years after Christ. |
protestantism is the authentic and original form of Christianity as proscibed in Gods word.
Thanks to Caholic suppression it was smothered for along time, and millions were martyred by the pagan pope attempting to obey God's plan for the world. But ultimately the truth showed itself.
I don't recall Jesus reccomending people confess their sins to other humans or rattling miserable rosaries to demon-possed bleeding statues of the human Mary. Satan has done his dam*dest to present an alluring decoy to draw the hapless away from the truth, appearing as an angel of light. What better ploy than to mix a little scripture then nullify it with blasphemous lies..leading the gullible to hell.
Its a miracle that the bible has survived centuries of satan-led attempts to snuff it out. but God has said he will return only once the gospel has been revealed to all nations on earth. We are nearing that time.
The simple message of Jesus...as passed on by the God inspired apostles..then such devout as william tyndale..is that.. Humans have deviated from Gods original plan for a perfect creation and proper relationship to God. We have fallen into evil, sin and injustice. to make things right and give mere mortals a shot at redemption and eternal life, God provided a sacrifice to wash the slate clean. Jesus made the way back to God clear for those who accept the offer.
This is the truth that catholicism, islam, and all other backward religions want to deny the world. Because they are agents of satan, whose sole objective is to decieve and win human souls to the eternal fires of hell.
Christianity is far older than Martin luther. Before Christ, people looked forward to the messiah. After his ressurection, they celebrated it.
Martin luther et al were inspired saints who passed the torch on.
Quote B positive:
| Quote: |
Most of my ex-Catholic family members have long since become "born-again Christians," and they are HORRIBLE PEOPLE NOW!
They hate their Asian neighbors: full-on racism.
They praise Bush for torturing and killing Muslim captives. |
I think thats a little exxagerated don't you?Don't know what sort of people you're referring to..but i never heard a christian rejoice at the idea of torturing muslims..or be essentially racist. Quite the opposite...they pray that all peoples may see the truth..and send missions of food and medical aid to the four corners of the earth- no matter their religion.
Do you see Islam sending charities around the world to supply medicine and food parcels to the poor? No..
Of course..christians are human, they have faults. But if you want to resist God's will for your life..and find reasons to not to even read the bible for yourself..then its not hard to do... |
Sorry, rapier, but I'm going to have to cut you down here.
"Proscribed" is the exact opposite of "prescribed."
If God, as you claim, "proscribed" Protestantism, then he EXPRESSLY FORBADE IT!
You won't be taken seriously by literate readers until you learn to handle the English language more adeptly. That's quite blunt and even rude of me, but it has to be said.
BEE POSITIVE |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
