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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| I do think Islam is a terrible scourge on the planet though, and I pity those locked, born into it, and those oppressed by it. I see it as entirely incompatible with the Christianity which the west has in places largely deserted ( eg Europe). Muslims will not only replace Europeans demographically there, but force a new "spirituality" on them now they have become weak and forsaken the one true, living God. |
You might have explained it better this way.
Islam is in its title 'surrender to God', thus praying 5 x a day, ramadan etc is ok. A muslim who is pious will follow the acts of the Koran, it is up to them if they follow a fundamental view such as proposed by wahabism or one proposed by the Ismaeli's, whether they are born into the belief or choose to join it.
Widespread leaving of the belief is not widely acceptable, certain liberal beliefs such as homosexuality, feminism aren't widely accepted in the current faith. In fact, it could be argued that it places restrictions on you that you must follow. If you follow them, then you are unlikely to find many problems, if you decide to deviate from the said beliefs them problems may and sometimes do arise.
Christianity as its most basic level is about freedom, the freedom to do something and leave the faith or the freedom to not do something and stay. At its most fundamental level, christianity is about freedom of choice. Islam is about surender within guidelines (restrictions if you will) that help you to determine how you should live your life. Though you cant visibly leave them or state publically that you are following a different belief.
The best way that I can explain it is not the most PC. A man born into freedoms when offered chains of gold may refuse them, as he is born free and can live so. A man born in chains regardless of how nice they look can no longer remove them without permission,
Thus the question is open to all, will you live with freedom of choice or with restrictions of faith, both are open to you and both are your choice.
My choice is to live free, so I will never give up my freedoms, either to Islam or a totalitarian Government. So far I have been blessed to live in a free state. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| I never said terrorism against people is Ok. |
What other kinds of terrorism are there?
Isn't what you've offered here strikes me as a little redundant?
Also, in response to your statement, a further question which naturally arises is whether you support terrorism NOT directed at civilian targets?
i.e. Are some types of so-called "terror" - ISM ok? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| rapier wrote: |
| I never said terrorism against people is Ok. |
What other kinds of terrorism are there?
Isn't what you've offered here strikes me as a little redundant?
Also, in response to your statement, a further question which naturally arises is whether you support terrorism NOT directed at civilian targets?
i.e. Are some types of so-called "terror" - ISM ok? |
exactly, you're right. How can damage to a bulldozer be called terrorism? This is another red herring that jaganath has slipped in to cause a diversion and confound everyone. Good one Jag, haha. if you misquote, misrepresent and twist what people are saying often enough, some of its bound to work eventually. 
let me restate what I said all along: i don't support terrorism. fairly easy statement to understand one would think? |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| Red herring my fat hynie, you said explicitly on this forum that there should be more eco-terrorism. You even admitted in this thread to participating in an act. You condemn all Muslims as bloodthirsty, women-hating apostates, hell bent on taking over Europe and supplanting what you term their "one true God". Methinks you better watch what you say here, my son, lest it comes back to bite you in the rear like this one has. |
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