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Americans - It's still only in YOUR country that this happen
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bixlerscott



Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: Americans - It's still only in YOUR country that this ha Reply with quote

leebumlik69 wrote:
You run and try to blame Koreans but you know in your heart if you have one that it's only in the U.S. that mass murders like this seem to happen

OH, you're so quick to blame Koreans but it it was a G.I murdering a Korean national in Korea, you would still blame Korean society. Your same old double standards. FACT: As usual this s.hit only seems to happen in the U.S.

Always in your country. Why?


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Not so, to set it straight, terrible violence happens everywhere in the world from time to time, throughout history, it's human nature. And yes, it is centered mostly around economic disparities, fierce competition inside and outside of schools causing more disparities, fear of those who are different than ones' own self, and jealousy of one another causing even more disparities, which causes people to feel jaded by it all. Some people are too jaded and take it out all the way with resorting to violence involving murder. It does happen in Korea too. Happens everywhere at random. The Gwangju Massacre back in 1980 was one such major incident to prove my point. Not to point the finger at Korea, but since this forumn is about Korea, I will use it as an example to demonstrate what I am saying.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_massacre

Yes, it was a Korean-American who shot those people at Virginia Tech, but immigrants from many other nations also commit the worst crimes while in the USA and abroad in other places as well. Remember the Bosnian kid about a month ago in a shopping mall? Korea should NOT be blamed at all for producing a killer. All nations do without knowing of or intending for such horrors to occur.


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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woo_Bum-Kon
I don't know if it's been put out there but the WORST killing spree in the WORLD was perpetrated by a Korean WITH ACCESS TO GUN (American style...well, virtually)
it's super cold blooded....you should read it...
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newton kabiddles



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: Americans - It's still only in YOUR country that this ha Reply with quote

leebumlik69 wrote:

Always in your country. Why?
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Look at the diversity. Universities spread out all over the country with tens of thousands of people from every walk of life. Sooner or later it's all going to happen.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Irony Reply with quote

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I am an English teaching professional. I would have suspected that others who visit this sight are as well.


"site". Some irony there, don't you think? But your point is noted & agreed.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:37 am    Post subject: Worst killing spree. Reply with quote

Khyber:

Between 800,000 and 1,071,000 people were massacred in Rwanda in April, 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide#Genocide

And don't get me started on Pol Pot, & the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. (2 million people were systematically murdered there between April 1975->1979.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot

Or the Holocaust (6 million) in WWII, but granted, the latter was not recent.
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The Hammer



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaizer wrote:
rocklee wrote:


Hey if every foreigner was to leave and every korean came back to this place, then Korea would probably sink. Even nationalism would not save it.

actually, we want the foreigner to leave and want the oversea koreans back.

your logic doesn't even makes sense, genius.

blow your anti-korea at somewhere else, god damn foreigner.


Wow! I sense the rage of a person who knows not the joy of making love to a woman. Hmmm... sure can make a man mean.
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Matt_22



Joined: 22 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hammer wrote:
kaizer wrote:
rocklee wrote:


Hey if every foreigner was to leave and every korean came back to this place, then Korea would probably sink. Even nationalism would not save it.

actually, we want the foreigner to leave and want the oversea koreans back.

your logic doesn't even makes sense, genius.

blow your anti-korea at somewhere else, god damn foreigner.


Wow! I sense the rage of a person who knows not the joy of making love to a woman. Hmmm... sure can make a man mean.


word. how do you say "p-e-n-i-s envy" in korean?
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The Hammer



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Americans - It's still only in YOUR country that this ha Reply with quote

leebumlik69 wrote:
You run and try to blame Koreans but you know in your heart if you have one that it's only in the U.S. that mass murders like this seem to happen

OH, you're so quick to blame Koreans but it it was a G.I murdering a Korean national in Korea, you would still blame Korean society. Your same old double standards. FACT: As usual this s.hit only seems to happen in the U.S.

Always in your country. Why?


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The only thing you're probably any good at is selective perception.
Suggestion: Read some books, exercise, and try to get a girlfriend.
If you do these simple things you won't be so angry.

Remember: Anger is a choice. A dumb one!
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he has a point. Some people have been blaming Koreans. However, I don't think most Americans in the United States are blaming Koreans. However, many teachers who have experienced Korean racism, taxi drivers ignoring foreigners, being barred entry to some places, some friends being jumped by Koreans etc... This leads some to have a negative reaction towards many Koreans. Is it fair? No, but you must admit that when two Korean girls were killed by accident by some American soldiers some teachers were refused service in some places, though they weren't even soldiers. Of course, some Americans who say well remember how Koreans started blaming other foreigners when things went wrong, we all know how a Sikh Indian was killed in America after Sept.11th. Ignorance exists all over the world, and it is our ignorance that causes the pain out there.

Obviously, this young Korean man who murdered many people had psychological problems. Did his parents ensure he had proper treatment for his psychological problems or did they ignore his psychological problems. This is something I would like to know.

Shooting sprees happen all over the world. I know of one that happened in England, two in Canada, several in America, and there was a Korean soldier who killed his fellow soldiers. I do think, though, the easy access to weapons is a serious problem in the United States. It is better to have a crazed guy punch you than shoot you.

It is not only in America where people go nuts and shoot. A Korean man did that in 1982 and not long ago a Korean soldier shot his mates and threw a hand grenade.
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Adventurer keeps copying and pasting the same post in multiple threads...with slight editing, at best...what is it, 7 or 8 now? Well done. YAWN
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hammer wrote:
Wow! I sense the rage of a person who knows not the joy of making love to a woman. Hmmm... sure can make a man mean.


LOL, this sounds to me like a classic signature quotation. Laughing
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Trixie



Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Location: Anatolia

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Obviously, this young Korean man who murdered many people had psychological problems. Did his parents ensure he had proper treatment for his psychological problems or did they ignore his psychological problems. This is something I would like to know."

I don't know any Korean who would go to a psychologist.
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NAVFC



Joined: 10 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Americans - It's still only in YOUR country that this ha Reply with quote

leebumlik69 wrote:
You run and try to blame Koreans but you know in your heart if you have one that it's only in the U.S. that mass murders like this seem to happen

OH, you're so quick to blame Koreans but it it was a G.I murdering a Korean national in Korea, you would still blame Korean society. Your same old double standards. FACT: As usual this s.hit only seems to happen in the U.S.

Always in your country. Why?


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Lee, shut up. You DONT even know what you are talking about. I have yet to See ANYONE ANYONE blame the korean people as a whole force this! as a matter of fact, the US media has given it the extra mile to PREVENT anti-korean backlash, which is more then what your media does when theres a incident involving an american!

When ever a goreigner commits a crime , a large portion of korean people in korea then start to hate all foreigners or what not.
If a ESL teacher murdereed his or her students, what do you want to bet that every ESL teacher in korea would be hated? so what you need to do, Lee bum sik, is sit back, shut up, and be glad that our media will go the extra mile to hlep you out, even though your media is not nearly as giving when its reversed.
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W.T.Carl



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see Koreans being blamed. What I do see is that most folks look at this as a nut gone off his nut doing bad things. And now we see that he was commited to an asylum in '05. If so, why was he allowed to buy the glock that he used. There is a criminal background check. Why no database on those who have been committed? Oh, I guess this would stigmatize the "mentally ill", and we can't do that, could we? When you buy a fire arm- ANY fire you sign a form stating that you haven't been institutionalized. Couple that with a data base and this guy doesn't buy his piece ( legally).
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what the OP is thinking. Rolling Eyes

A few years ago, two American GI's accidently killed two Korean schoolgirls. Your entire country when completely insane, demanding all Americans go home (I remember a crowd of people chanting in English "AMELICA GO HOME! AMELICA GO HOME!") --even banning foreigners from some bars and restaurants!

I remember a German guy wanting to go into a bar, but he was not allowed in simply because he was a foreigner. How pathetic is that?

Do you see restauarnts in America putting out signs on their establishments "No Koreans!" after this incident?

No, you don't.

But now a Korean intentionally kills dozens of students, and you and your national media and even foreign minister are all worried about Korea's "face" and suddenly calling for people to not blame Korea?

Hypocrite. <--- Do you know this word?

Once again, the Koreans turn around into "we are the victims" mode.

Frankly, the international community is getting sick of it. It's immature and childish.

Instead of using animalistic instincts or child-like, uncontrolled emotion when writing, you should try instead using reason, facts, and logic. You will get a lot more respect from international circles if you do.

At the end of the day, the facts are what shape the history books.
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