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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: The amazing police of Itaewon. |
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Unless I've been too hammered to remember otherwise, I believe I witnessed my first case of Itaewon's Finest in action the other night. I was up at Friends bar with a Friend, at a table by the window facing the Debut bar/hooker lounge. I peered out the window and saw the owner getting into a scuffle with an African guy. The owner shoved the other guy just as a taxi was cruising through, and the guy's lower back was smashed by the front end of the taxi's hood. Needless to say, he was laid out. It was one of those hits that you react to like this: "ooooooh nasty.." and grimace.
Well, two other random African guys ran over and the taxi driver was nice enough to get out and wait for the cops to arrive. I decided my friend and I should go down to serve as witnesses if needed. Plus, I just wanted to get a glimpse of the I.P.D. in all its glory.
First of all, the cops paid no mind to the wounded guy. He was carted off by someone else, presumably to a hospital. The owner of the bar hid inside for most of the exchange. The cops first interviewed a hooker that works at Debut. The African guys, who spoke pretty good Korean, explained to the cop what happened. The hooker retorted that the guy who was hit tried to strangle her and that's why he was shoved out into the street. Strangely, not a single customer inside the crowded bar would corroborate the story. She pointed to one guy who was right next to the incident and said he could verify her story. He just kinda looked the other way..
After about 5 minutes of various people talking all at once, the main cop lost his lid. Started screaming, telling everyone to shut up, spit flying everywhere. He did not interview a single witness and refused to hear anyone's story except the hooker's. I was thinking about how in the US, cops usually separate parties, get individual stories, speak to witnesses, and deduce veracity in such a manner. Instead, this dude really just made matters worse.
In the end, nothing was done. The victim of the incident probably ended up paying his own medical bills, and no action was taken against Debut.
The waeg gets shafted again. 
Any I.P.D. stories of your own? |
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funkywinkerbeans
Joined: 17 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Wow!
I never realised Polly was so strong!
Debut bar gets a lot of regulars and Polly always keeps a lid on things. I don't think any of the customers would say anything bad about her! If she pushed the guy, he probably had it coming as I've seen some crazy things in there and Polly has never pushed anyone around as a result. Come on, the lady weighs about 120 pounds. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I too am amazed how Polly keeps things going somewhat sane in that place.
That is THE bar where all the guys who didn't get laid and are drunk off their ass go and strut off their male tetesterone.
If you hang around there a bit, you'll always end up seeing someone's blood being poured out on the streets for some reason or another.
Anyways, if the police went there, I'd say Polly would probably know what happened (if they interviewed her). She's the only sober one and notices every little detail on every little thing that goes on in there or anyone who walks by. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| If Polly threw him out, he must have been a real loser. That bar is out of control. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, who is Polly? I've never been there.
The person who shoved the guy into the cab was a Korean man with a big gut. I assumed he was the owner. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| My friend and I tried to file a report there once. The cop asked me just to "forgive" the guy. The cops here are a good excuse for vigilante justice, IMO. Oh yeah, not one guy at that station spoke English, so if you don't speak Korean, don't bother. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| periwinkle wrote: |
| The cops here are a good excuse for vigilante justice, IMO. |
I'd say the story shows that the cop was allowing vigilante justice |
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periwinkle
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| twg wrote: |
| periwinkle wrote: |
| The cops here are a good excuse for vigilante justice, IMO. |
I'd say the story shows that the cop was allowing vigilante justice |
I'd say the bar owner needs to learn not to push ppl into oncoming taxis, sure... |
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Typhoon
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd say the story shows that the cop was allowing vigilante justice |
That is the only kind of justice that exists in this country. Just ask the CEO of Hanhwa. He knew he needed to take things into his own hands and the judge understood this and let him go. Anyone who has been here a few years knows it is a complete waste of time to call the cops. |
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tomwaits
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if some of you are confusing Pollys Kettle with the Debut--which is run by the one and only Miss Polly...Debut is a bar with 5 stools in front of it and a bit of standing room . And yeh it is amazing Polly keeps it so calm as most of her business is in the wee hours when everything else is closing.
Anyway the "hooker" was likely from next door as Debut is not that kind of place...Sounds lije some customer confrontation.
as for the Itaewan police I don't imagine they solve a lot of crimes. |
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vox
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| twg wrote: |
| periwinkle wrote: |
| The cops here are a good excuse for vigilante justice, IMO. |
I'd say the story shows that the cop was allowing vigilante justice |
I'd say the same. If that little miss managed to get angry enough to push an oversized opponent out, he clearly had it coming. What else would this story seek to elicit from the reader? Compassion for a big fat criminal who's angry because a hooker won't take him? Yeah how dare she exercise some choice over her customers. Let's all light a candle vigil for the poor put-upon john who was obviously a victim of race. Frig off.
Can you imagine how many times the cops are called out to Hooker Hill because of stuff like this? It sounds to me like the cop was doing what he could. The guy with the real injuries was carted off for medical attention presumably, and the business of corroborating stories occured after that. Sounds like the cop had his head on straight in a difficult situation. Also consider how often Polly(?) gets cops called to her bar. The circumstances are stacked against the john. Don't piss off a hooker so badly that you have to get pushed out of her own bar.
I don't claim to know much about the etiquette of hooker-john negotiations, but I'm sure that somewhere in that mess that being a gentleman probably never goes out of style. You go to a wh.ore, one of the most problem-laiden professions, and you can't even manage to keep her from fighting with you and trying to push you into moving cars, you've clearly got to go back to john school or wherever it is you learn your pick up lines. Frankly, I hope the guy died.
edit: I just re-read the post and noticed that (if the story is correct) one cop, not two, came to the scene. And five witnesses were trying to talk to him all at once. I want to retract my statement and say thanks for pointing out the glaring injustice of his subsequent actions. Because we all know that no cop back home in the US or Canada ever loses his cool under the same circumstances. With attitudes like this, it's no wonder we have difficulty finding good candidates for cops back home.
Last edited by vox on Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:44 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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stevesnackincake
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Typhoon wrote: |
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| I'd say the story shows that the cop was allowing vigilante justice |
That is the only kind of justice that exists in this country. Just ask the CEO of Hanhwa. He knew he needed to take things into his own hands and the judge understood this and let him go. Anyone who has been here a few years knows it is a complete waste of time to call the cops. |
It IS a total waste of time calling the cops here. I had my motorcycle stolen and the cops came and took my info. I even gave them a photograph. They said they would show the photo to all the other cops. A week passes by and my friend sees my bike while out jogging one day. Where did he find my stolen ride? Parked in front of the police station! That's how hard they looked for it. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| vox wrote: |
| twg wrote: |
| periwinkle wrote: |
| The cops here are a good excuse for vigilante justice, IMO. |
I'd say the story shows that the cop was allowing vigilante justice |
I'd say the same. If that little miss managed to get angry enough to push an oversized opponent out, he clearly had it coming. What else would this story seek to elicit from the reader? Compassion for a big fat criminal who's angry because a hooker won't take him? Yeah how dare she exercise some choice over her customers. Let's all light a candle vigil for the poor put-upon john who was obviously a victim of race. Frig off.
Can you imagine how many times the cops are called out to Hooker Hill because of stuff like this? It sounds to me like the cop was doing what he could. The guy with the real injuries was carted off for medical attention presumably, and the business of corroborating stories occured after that. Sounds like the cop had his head on straight in a difficult situation. Also consider how often Polly(?) gets cops called to her bar. The circumstances are stacked against the john. Don't piss off a hooker so badly that you have to get pushed out of her own bar.
I don't claim to know much about the etiquette of hooker-john negotiations, but I'm sure that somewhere in that mess that being a gentleman probably never goes out of style. You go to a wh.ore, one of the most problem-laiden professions, and you can't even manage to keep her from fighting with you and trying to push you into moving cars, you've clearly got to go back to john school or wherever it is you learn your pick up lines. Frankly, I hope the guy died. |
Wishing the guy dead is a bit much, to say the very least.
Anyway, for the second time in the thread, it was a big guy with a gut who pushed the now-injured man into the oncoming taxi.
Unless Polly is a big fat owner in Itaewon, I don't think Polly - who people are making out to be some kind of saint - was responsible for pushing anyone into an oncoming cab. |
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jaganath69
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Vox also needs to consider that when the cops are called, Koreans will often make up stories in order to increase their chances of compensation. |
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vox
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Vox also needs to consider that when the cops are called, Koreans will often make up stories in order to increase their chances of compensation. |
yeah I am a bit grumpy today, but although you have a point, its weight is subatomic next to this:
hooker - f*cks anybody - anybody - for money, pushing a john out the bar. That's got to be like a televangelist angrily shoving your money back into your pocket and telling you to get lost.
The thing I'm wondering about is.. what does it take to do that? It's not like he's insulted her honor. |
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