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JamesFord



Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: my personal playground

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: slacker Reply with quote

Has Korea made you more irresponsible?


I think I am, and I don't know how to change back!
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as-ian



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If S.Korea is turning you into a slacker, i would look more at yourself then the country. I have only heard of the opposite happening. Just my opinion though. ^^
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering we can't take sick days and work 5 days a week, which at most hagwons means between 40-50 hours of work (some between 50-60), its hard to be a slacker. Especially if you've just finished university.

I'm lucky I worked so many jobs before this or else I'd find it difficult.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K has definetely reduced my work ethic. There's very little insentive to excel here - it's all about face. Look tidy, go through the motions - attend way too many hours doing sweet B all - smile a lot - and - you're a teacher.

I'm lucky this is my last stint working - or I'd be in trouble when I re-entered the Western workforce.
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JamesFord



Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: my personal playground

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's right fatfarang.

But away from all of that I just mean there's less responsibility here. I don't own a car, just jump on a bus or subway that comes every two minutes. No insurance to worry about or oil changes, or all the other crap that comes with owning a car. Same goes for housing. Back home I'd own a house and have to maintain it, cut the grass, shovel the driveway, etc.
Because of the language barrier, the gf takes care of most things (at the bank, paying bills, ordering pizza, whatever). You walk down the street and everyone leaves you alone because of the communication thing.
You can get away with so much that you couldn't back home. This results in a lack of responsibility. Do something wrong, no problem... I'm just a stupid waegookin.
Also, being so far from your family lessens some responsibility towards them, because what can you do from here?


These are just a few of the many examples that I feel give us a lot less responsibility here.

And just a note: for those of you that are working 50 hours a week with no sick days, you just have the wrong job. And in those 50 hours, in how many of them do you actually have to produce? My guess is 0. 99% of teaching here is showing up.
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confucias says "delegate downwards!"
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I slack on my politeness with regards to physical space. Bumping into people and cutting people off in traffic is the only way to travel around Seoul.
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soju pizza



Joined: 21 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In coming to Korea, I was cured of my pot addiction and turned into an insomniac alcoholic.
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PeterDragon



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soju pizza wrote:
In coming to Korea, I was cured of my pot addiction and turned into an insomniac alcoholic.


Quote of the month. I rarely actually LOL on teh Internet, so thank you.

The hagwon setup and the ESL teaching setup in general in this country illustrate that there's a very big difference between hard work and actual responsibility. I found my initial work experience in Korea made me less ambitious-- all the pay of a real professional job back home, with all the simplicity of working the drive through at McDonald's. Now that I'm in a public school, my sense of responsibility is creeping back in a little, but only a little. On the one hand I can tangibly make a difference here if I actually put in some extra effort (unlike Hagwon). On the other hand, no one I work with actually cares if I become a more effective employee (just like Hagwon).
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