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CheeseSandwich



Joined: 02 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Advancement in Korea Reply with quote

Any of the oldbies want to relate their stories about how they moved past being just a hagwon teacher or how they upped their pay from hagwon starter salary?



I'm quite curious, I imagine if you've been here a number of years you've progressed past english speaking monkey like the rest of us newbies.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Secret to Advancement in Korea. GET OUT OF KOREA.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After your contract is up, look around for a better job.


Not to be a jerk, but really. Your boss isn't going to move you from 2.0 to 2.5. You can get another job at 2.5 tho... maybe...
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CheeseSandwich



Joined: 02 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no crap?!

I was looking for more stories of people who have been here and gotten out of the hagwon market
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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regretably, Goldmember and hubba bubba are probably right. You may have a great school and admin and can contribute to the school, but it probably won't happen, at least not without ruffling a few feathers. From what I heard through the grapevine is that any foreigners placed in a position of authority or "power", even if you own your own hogwon, might face a lot of flack from your local hogwan association. I really can't see them sittin comfortably with a foreigner at the helm of any school.

I've heard of that happening with one foreigner who invested in a school and had to sell after a couple of years because of the harrassment he was facing from the hagwon association.

You may have better luck in a private elementary school.

Again, this is only thru the grapevine....
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lucas_p



Joined: 17 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly,

Just work here for a few years and GET OUT of the hagwon system. If you have some experience and perhaps a certificate under your belt, you can get a uni job, which most times relieves a lot of the stress.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a word - networking. It's not what you know...
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Advancement in Korea Reply with quote

CheeseSandwich wrote:
Any of the oldbies want to relate their stories about how they moved past being just a hagwon teacher or how they upped their pay from hagwon starter salary?

Tell yourself to move up or move out. Either get something better or leave.

I've done it twice now, and it works quite nicely. You can almost always find something "better" in Korea.
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are Uni jobs, but they vary widely.

The top foreign language high schools are great, but those jobs can be hard to get.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Want a promotion?

Get married to a Korean.

An F2 equals perhaps the biggest promotion one can hope to get.

If you're willing to work for it, you can double your salary, and have little or no fear of problems for doing it.

You an also walk away from bad situations.
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makemischief



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of at least three foreigners who own (whether in partnership or not I haven't the foggiest) hagwons and do very well- they've been at it for years and so far so good.

Cheese sandwich: I started at a hagwon. I now teach university. this transition happens quite a lot (in the sense that many uni teachers once taught at hagwons- not that most hagwon teachers go on to teach at universities).

Cheers! Very Happy
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