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Gopher
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 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: Ahmadinejad to Speak at Columbia... |
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| All Things Considered, September 21, 2007 � New York City welcomes world leaders next week for the start of the U.N.'s General Assembly. But some are more welcome than others... |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Is assassination in the cards? |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| For someone like yourself who advocates suicide for those who disagree with his political nut-bag ideas? Undoubtedly. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
| For someone like yourself who advocates suicide for those who disagree with his political nut-bag ideas? Undoubtedly. |
I thought you weren't the one who started online fights. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
| For someone like yourself who advocates suicide for those who disagree with his political nut-bag ideas? Undoubtedly. |
I advocate suicide? Nah, all I did was see how confident you were in your stupid little dellusions. You chickened out. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Back to the topic at hand. Jinju and keane: please run along and play with the other ADD children now.
Part of me loathes the prospect of Ahmadine-jihad-an speaking at one of our most prominent universities--one synonymous with Jewish American humanism, I might add. It dignifies a man who should be a goat shepherd back in Iran.
But then that same humanistic tradition would seem to dictate that even the most appalling opposing views should be entertained--or at least tolerated. For this reason only, I say let him speak. He might just show his ignorance in all its splendid glory.
More than likely, however, he will probably try to rehabilitate his image as a war-mongering anti-Semite and assuage his host by speaking in civil tones, lamenting the loss of the chance to visit Ground Zero.
Either way, he isn't likely to get the best of his hosts. Even the most liberal students are shrewd enough to smell a hairy rat when they see one. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| he should be shot. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| I would be far better to kill Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamani. He has far more power than Iran's president. He is also much smarter and much more dangerous. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| I would be far better to kill Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamani. He has far more power than Iran's president. He is also much smarter and much more dangerous. |
true BUT you cant really get Khamani but you could get this tool. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| keane wrote: |
| For someone like yourself who advocates suicide for those who disagree with his political nut-bag ideas? Undoubtedly. |
I thought you weren't the one who started online fights. |
If I'd wanted to, I would have. Just pointing out the obvious. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| keane wrote: |
| For someone like yourself who advocates suicide for those who disagree with his political nut-bag ideas? Undoubtedly. |
I advocate suicide? Nah, all I did was see how confident you were in your stupid little dellusions. You chickened out. |
Had I ever said what you tried to imply, you would be right. The stupidity of the pages of crap defecated all over by you, my little ones, is that I never said Bush would remain in power as a certainty. In fact, minus war with Iran, I put it at about 50/50. That's a far cry from 100%, my deluded, violent little one. I know, as I said before, this logic escapes you.
Even if I HAD said it was a certainty, your post was still sickening. your pursuit of it over weeks and pages and multiple threads borders on illness.
For someone who complains about references about his wife that many didn't think even qualified as a comment about your wife, but about you, you get pretty sick on your own. What was said to you pales in comparison to saying another person should off themselves to please you. You demanded apology. Will you apologize? Hell no. Hypocrisy sucks.
I know, this logic escapes you, too.
Kisses, little ones. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
| Back to the topic at hand. Jinju and keane: please run along and play with the other ADD children now. |
This from the one who characterizes his opponents as spittling, mueling, whining??? Rich. You also need to learn, along with your buddy gopher, that big words do not cogent analysis make.
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Part of me loathes the prospect of Ahmadine-jihad-an speaking at one of our most prominent universities--one synonymous with Jewish American humanism, I might add. It dignifies a man who should be a goat shepherd back in Iran.
But then that same humanistic tradition would seem to dictate that even the most appalling opposing views should be entertained--or at least tolerated. For this reason only, I say let him speak. He might just show his ignorance in all its splendid glory.
More than likely, however, he will probably try to rehabilitate his image as a war-mongering anti-Semite and assuage his host by speaking in civil tones, lamenting the loss of the chance to visit Ground Zero.
Either way, he isn't likely to get the best of his hosts. Even the most liberal students are shrewd enough to smell a hairy rat when they see one. |
I agree with you in basic, but our reasoning is different. I don't loath that he should speak. I believe in free speech. I also believe in basic problem solving. You can't solve a problem you won't address. Bush is a complete fool on this point.
Saying he is given legitimacy simply because he is spoken to is the province of those with limited minds. It is a poor logical construction: he is spoken to, therefore he is legitimate. Nonsense.
Your final point is actually the best reason to let him speak. Let him hang himself on his own petard either by losing it in full view of the world press and with intelligent people painting him into a corner or by speaking hypocritically and/or by contradicting himself. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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keane imagined:
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| Saying he is given legitimacy simply because he is spoken to is the province of those with limited minds. It is a poor logical construction: he is spoken to, therefore he is legitimate. Nonsense. |
Alas, I see that you suffer from a reading disorder in addition to ADD.
EFLT: I didn't use the word "legitimacy." The poorest logical constructions are derived from what you wish someone else had said.
Now isn't it time for you to eat a BLT sandwich? |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
keane imagined:
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| Saying he is given legitimacy simply because he is spoken to is the province of those with limited minds. It is a poor logical construction: he is spoken to, therefore he is legitimate. Nonsense. |
keane: I didn't use the word "legitimacy." The poorest logical constructions are derived from what you wish someone else had said. |
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| It dignifies a man who should be a goat shepherd back in Iran. |
There is no difference in the context. I paraphrased you, and did so appropriately.
The poorest logical construct is the lie. Stop lying. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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There is no difference in the context. I paraphrased you, and did so appropriately.
The poorest logical construct is the lie. Stop lying. |
What on earth are you talking about EFLT? In the first place, I was weighing the consequences; then I opted for letting him speak. How does that tact demonstrate my need to question his legitimacy? He has no dignity, however, whether he speaks at Columbia or not. He's nothing more than a rabble rouser.
Ya know, I'll bet the main reason you never played sports in high school is that you shuddered at the prospect of advertising your IQ on your jersey.
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