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Nerdowl



Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Painting over the ugly wallpaper? Reply with quote

Hello, I'm new to the forum and am wondering, has anyone ever attempted to paint over their ugly wallpaper?

Mine is sort of a pale, pinkish off-white with baby blue polkadots. It is worn and peeling in places, and a bit moldy at the front of the apartment around the door and window. I have been in discussion with the guy at my school for about 6 weeks about the possibility of getting it replaced. I haven't gotten a definitive answer yet, but after multiple apartment visits and (supposed) telephone conversations between the guy at the school and the homeowner, I think that my floor, which is oozing orange-brown stuff through the crack in the linoleum in one room, will eventually be fixed, but I don't think that they will agree to replace the old polka dotted paper.

So I am thinking of taking matters into my own hands with a paintbrush. I have been doing a bit of reading on the internet about the "right way" to paint over wallpaper, which involves different kinds of primer, and plastering over the seams, etc if you want it to look really good. It will be a bit of work, but I actually really enjoy doing DIY home improvement/design projects, so I suppose I could consider it to be a form of weekend recreation. Smile My apartment is decent, and could be really nice with a fresh coat of paint!

So, my questions:

- Has anyone done this before and how did it go?
- Is it a bad idea to seal up and then paint over the section of wall where the mold might come back?
- Will the homeowner or school flip out if they find out what I've done? (I sort of think no as they don't to care or notice at all what goes on in my apartment unless I'm calling to complain about something.)
- Does anyone have a better suggestion?

Thanks for any comments or suggestions.
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Nemesis



Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Good that you've got the mojo to put towards a project.

Not that you asked for this particular type of advice, but here's an idea: take that mojo, turn it away from improving your temporary dwelling, and turn it towards improving yourself.

Having extra energy is bonus. It it worth it to you to expend it on a hagwon hovel?
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aaabank



Joined: 27 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't ask for permission to paint. you'll only run into hassles. after you move out, they would most likely slap on a new layer of ugly wallpaper to temporarily cover the mold anyhow.

i painted one wall in my apt last year and am glad i did. i didn't do any prep work other than to tape up the wood paneling (otherwise known as molding). no primer coat or anything else. it still looks good a year later.
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saw6436



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always been a proponent of improving your nest. But, since you do not actually "own" your apartment you should get permission to paint first.

I have worked off and on in the construction industry for most of my life. Some paints will preclude the use of wallpaper in the future if you apply them. If your landlord want to wallpaper over your paint job he/she could run into difficulties depending on the type of paint you use AND the wallpaper he/she uses. Since this is Korea and that type of info is generally lacking it can be a crapshoot.
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got a mold problem, no amount of paint is going to take care of it.

And if you're so willing to put all the effort into priming and sealing and putting a lot of work into it, why not strip the wallpaper yourself? Then you can slap a single coat of paint up and not have to worry about the paper showing through. It's not a paint job that will last forever, but it will look good for the year you're living there. That could only be a problem if the wallpaper is covering up some major cracks or flaws or if there are fifty million layers of wallpaper up. Stripping wallpaper is a little tedious, but it's really not that difficult.
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Nerdowl



Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And if you're so willing to put all the effort into priming and sealing and putting a lot of work into it, why not strip the wallpaper yourself?


I am honestly afraid of stripping wallpaper. I tried it once in an apartment in Toronto and the mysteries it revealed were not at all ones I wanted to solve. I'd rather go for the bandaid solution. Even if the bandaid is somewhat complicated to apply, at least I can see what I'm working with.

I am a bit afraid to ask for permission to paint, lest they say no and then I'm stuck with pale polka dots. I may ask permission in a vague way though, like "if you don't buy me new wallpaper I will be forced to fix it as I see fit" (er.. wink wink nudge nudge.. I'm going to paint over it all). Of course I would rather the school, or the homeowner, or whichever body actually takes responsibility for these things be okay with it to avoid any possible ugly confrontations at the end of the contract, but I'm a girl who likes to make a space her own/has a bit of a do-it-yourself design fixation, so I'll do what I can get away with.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*beep* it. do it, dude. i think it's pretty commonly done here. anyway, if the walls are molding and ugly, a paint job isn't exactly going to damage the place, is it?
i mean, i don't think i'd do anything artistic, like a mural or something. but if you just want to give the place a fresh coat of paint, i don't think there's any harm in it.

on the other hand, i don't think it's too terribly expensive here to have some guys come over and just flat out change your wallpaper.

you said you're a do-it-yourselfer, but if you want to play it safe, maybe let the pros give it a shot.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaabank wrote:
don't ask for permission to paint. you'll only run into hassles.


Absolutely. This goes for anything in life. People are far more likely to reject an idea than they are to rain down punishment if you've done something they dislike. Just do whatever you want, and most likely there will be nothing more than a scolding, in my experience.

As for your mold problem, you can solve it, you know. Go to a store that sells things and ask them for something to remove 곰팡이. Spray it on the affected area, wait a few hours, spray again, etc.. just make sure you lay down some plastic or something on the floor. I got rid of an enormous mold creature in my first apartment that way.
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
Go to a store that sells things


This is the most logical advice Qinella has ever given. Take advantage of his wisdom.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a mold problem behind my wallpaper in a basement apartment a few years back. I chose to let it slide, because it was behind the bed. Within a few weeks... BOOM! It had literally exploded all across the room, and was growing daily. I ended up ripping all of the wallpaper out from the middle on down, pulling up the vinyl floor, and scrubbing the wall and floor with a mixture of bleach and water. The cheap landlord just had them cut and replace the paper that had been ripped, so I had this bright white paper mixed with old yellowing paper, and lots of jaggy edges all along the wall.

It was a freakin' MESS, but it worked. I also had to buy a dehumidifier (200,000 won back then) to keep the dampness away.

Mold is nothing to ignore.
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Nerdowl



Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mold is nothing to ignore.


That's good advice! Actually the only reason I've left it alone is because I'm trying to use it as leverage in my scheme to get new wallpaper out of my school. I have just been informed that the homeowner himself is coming to visit my apartment on Monday for visit #4 (funny. He was supposed to come along for visit #3 with the school guy on Friday, but when the school guy showed up he said that the homeowner lives far away and never visits...). This isn't just a wallpaper thing though. The main problem that has been taking forever to get fixed (I imagine that will take about 5 more visits just to get started!) is that there is some sort of a water leak in my floor.

I have been sort of monitoring the mold though (and taking photos to send home to my friends!), and it hasn't grown at all, so that's a good sign. After I show it to the homeowner I will go to a "store that sells things" and get something that will do the trick. Smile

I am finding the whole process of trying to get anything done about it quite amusing. It's amazing how many different people they have to send, and how many times the same people have to come over to determine that there is even a problem. I mentioned this to the school guy and his answer was "Sorry it's taking so long. It's the Korean way."
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, you're doing this to kill mold? Bad idea.

I can't imagine painting over wallpaper would ever look good.
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Nerdowl



Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No not to kill the mold. Most of the apartment is mold free but there are a couple of patches of mold near the front of the apartment. Was just wondering if that could be a potential problem should I decide to paint (if they come back after I scrub them).
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Nerdowl



Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: Looks like I won't have to paint the walls after all. The homeowner turned out to be a sweet little lady who came by for apartment visit #4 today. She agreed to pay for everything that needs fixing, which means that after they determine the cause of the leak in my floor and fix it, I will get new flooring and new wallpaper. And then she apologized for the inconvenience.

I am soooo happy right now. I'm still gonna slap a fresh coat of paint on my trim, but the walls will be done for me. Smile
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gajackson1



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on sounding like you got it sorted out.

Extra bonus tip - since everyone else had run down all the things I was going to write/advise/say -

Get thee to a giftery right away, and secure something for both your boss, AND your landlady. I'd say about 25k won each. Attach nice notes, in both Korean and English. Tell them they are belated Ch'u-sok gifts, or early Thanksgiving ones. And also that it was really, really nice to meet your landlady at last.

Of course, there will be people who reply after me and say *bleepedy-bleep buh-LEEP* that! But please just trust me on that.

Regards,

G.


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