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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: Release letter, taxes and ins. cont for time here already? |
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Well, I'm getting a letter of release from my job. The director who was once my friend has not abided by Korean law. He hasn't provided health insurance, proof of Korean taxes paid, pension, and a bunch of things he was supposed to provide for my apartment.
So, here are my questions:
1. With a letter of release, I don't need to get another visa, right? I can just have my visa transferred to the new job?
2. Will the visa be extended for a year from now with the new contract?
3. Will I be responsible for Korean taxes, health insurance, pension, etc. for the last five - possibly nine weeks I worked for him?
4. Will HE be responsible for contributing in kind for the number of weeks I worked for him?
5. How will this all be handled, since he's made no effort to do so in the meantime?
6. Along all these lines, will I have to reapply for my health insurance with my new employer?
Anything else you can think of that I should cover with him? Thanks for your help.
Also, please pm me if you have any private information you'd care to give. |
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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Bumping this - please help. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: |
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I'd advise you to contact the labor board for true answers. Or tompatz. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, didn't you tell someone:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1330862&highlight=#1330862
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Just two examples of a million I can think of where people are encouraged to hang in there. One of the reasons why foreign teachers have a bad reputation in Korea is the tendency to walk away. (I won't go into all the other reasons).
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My point is that it's easy to walk away from a situation you don't like. Now I'll wax prophetic for a minute (just keep scrolling if you don't like what I say).
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Life is not about pleasing ourselves or liking every situation in which we find ourselves. Life should not be about making promises and then breaking them.
Instead, life should be about taking our time here and going with it, learning from it and growing up a little more each day.
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Then what? Different situations at a new job, but basically the same. You are uncomfortable with people with whom you must work every day.
You can't keep on quitting jobs forever, or you'll soon find that nobody will hire you.
Quitting is the easy way out and the dishonorable way out.
Sticking with it is harder but brings more future rewards (who knows - maybe you could get to know the new owner on an individual basis and he'll wind up offering you a better apartment, more money, etc., if you will help him recruit new teachers). Possibility? Yes, Korea is full of surprises and lots of good ones at that. |
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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes, of course I wrote those things. I was talking about people who just leave their jobs because they don't like them.
But my employer has not provided me with health insurance, pension plan, a chair, a table, a hanging space for clothes, curtains for privacy, etc. All these things were in my contract.
He is having financial difficulties, so this is why he hasn't done what he is supposed to do.
I'm not "running;" we have come to a mutual agreement about my leaving. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Release letter, taxes and ins. cont for time here alread |
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This kind of thing happens to a lot of wide eyed newbies, including me, way back when. Sorry you had to join the club. My answers are in blue.
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So, here are my questions:
1. With a letter of release, I don't need to get another visa, right? I can just have my visa transferred to the new job?
Nope, sorry, you will need a new visa. On the upside, you'll get a couple of days in Japan
2. Will the visa be extended for a year from now with the new contract?
The new visa will last for how ever long your next contract is
3. Will I be responsible for Korean taxes, health insurance, pension, etc. for the last five - possibly nine weeks I worked for him?
Nope, but you won't get any pension for that time either. The agencies in charge of these things don't know you exist right now, and won't know unless you tell them. Threatening to let them know can be a useful way to get that letter of release
4. Will HE be responsible for contributing in kind for the number of weeks I worked for him?
Not unless you report him, and get him investigated, in which case you may both have to pay your share
5. How will this all be handled, since he's made no effort to do so in the meantime?
All what?
6. Along all these lines, will I have to reapply for my health insurance with my new employer?
Yes, though normally the employer handles that, along with pension and taxes. These agencies all have foreign help lines so you can confirm that payments are being made in your name.
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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Peppermint - thanks for helpful information. I believe the agency DOES know I exist, because I got a bill today for 450,000+ won from NHIC.
So, now what? |
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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Another question - the letter of release referred to in another contract says this: We hereby give our consent to the transfer of said person to work for another English school/academy.
Doesn't that mean that I can transfer without a visa run?
sorry to be so dull. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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http://www.pusanweb.com
1) Click on "Job Advice Forums"
2) Click on "FAQs About Teaching in Korea"
3) Click on the following;
a. What is a Letter of Release (LOR) and when do I need one?
b. How do I file a complaint with the Pension Office (PO)
c. My employer broke our contract, what do I do? |
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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Bumping this:
Someone said, "3. Will I be responsible for Korean taxes, health insurance, pension, etc. for the last five - possibly nine weeks I worked for him?
Nope, but you won't get any pension for that time either. The agencies in charge of these things don't know you exist right now, and won't know unless you tell them. Threatening to let them know can be a useful way to get that letter of release"
Since I got a bill for 450,000 Won, they DO know I exist, right? Or can I just get my letter of release and go to Japan for another visa?
ALSO, very important - when should the letter of release be taken to immigration? He has agreed to let me leave on the 25th of this month. So, is that what the letter of release should say and should I get it to Immigration so I can get my extra 14 days?
Thanks for your help. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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ALSO, very important - when should the letter of release be taken to immigration? He has agreed to let me leave on the 25th of this month. So, is that what the letter of release should say and should I get it to Immigration so I can get my extra 14 days? |
http://www.efl-law.com/letter_of_release.php
The 25th is on a Thursday, so get your employer to sign the letter of release on Wednesday(24th). Your employer should sign three copies. Immigration will ask for a copy and your employer should keep one for his records. When you get this letter of release signed and dated, move out of your apartment that night. Do not stop at a pub and get wasted because you're no longer working for the jag-off. You need to move out. Arrive at immigration precisely at 8:45 a.m. the next morning because the doors open up at 9:00 a.m. It's important that you arrive at immigration before your employer does. Employers have a reputation of reporting teachers as runners and making up other stuff. The letter of release above will be fine. They may ask you when you plan on leaving the country before they issue you the exit order ( they are 14 days). Do not tell them a period of time beyond 14 days or they'll start asking MORE questions. Make it easy on yourself, so you can get out of there as quick as possible. Also, make sure the immigration officer stamps your E2 Visa with "VOID" if he/she forgets to do so. They usually do that after writing the exit order.
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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Okay, thanks for your help. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations on getting a LOR. Need a new job? |
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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I do need a new job, actually. I have an interview tomorrow and had another one last week, but the lady last week had to hire someone faster than I could come, as my boss won't release me until the 25th of this month. |
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