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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: Does religion encourage an unhealthy attitude to sex? |
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Religion encourages an unhealthy attitude to sex, according to this article: Demystifying sex
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In order to answer his important questions, we have to start by shattering the disturbingly naive assumptions behind them. The most obvious point is that sex and love aren't necessarily natural bedfellows, and that the institution through we which we attempt to combine them - monogamy - goes against our basic instincts as human beings. This isn't to say that marriage isn't necessarily a good idea: just that it's perhaps not inherently the greatest way to have an exciting sex life.
This is why Rabbi Boteach has spent much of his career providing advice to couples on what they do in bed. And, whatever one's opinion on religion, that's holy work indeed. But if he's ever going to solve his quandary, he'll have to challenge some crucial religious misunderstandings regarding sex. Religious people often lazily argue that the secular world is obsessed with sex, citing the soft porn that seems to have permeated every corner of popular culture. But the truth is the reverse. It is the religious world that is obsessed with sex. As a result, it dangerously misunderstands it. The secular world is actually quite comfortable with sex, although this comfort often manifests itself in unpleasant ways. Maybe that's knowledge for you.
Religion starts from the belief that sex is a fundamentally holy act, one that should be performed (if at all) only by a married heterosexual couple. This creates an extraordinarily high level of expectation regarding the sexual act, one that is often impossible to attain. In contrast, secular culture emphasises the carnality and banality of sex. It is able to reach heights that can sometimes only be described through the metaphor of spiritual language, but often it doesn't. And that's OK. Sex is great even when it doesn't "transcend". |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Depends on the religion's goals in regards to social control, I figure. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Yes it does provide an unhealthy view. To demand that, as most religions do, that it is a sin to have sex before you are married, would be an incredibly difficult feat for most of the teenaged and twenty-something population of the world (a large segment of this demographic isn't married). Better to encourage people to be responsible, married or otherwise.
If you're going to insist on abstinence though, it would at least be wise, for the sake of young people's health, to teach them that masterbation is a healthy alternative. But this too is a sin.
Penn and Teller "Bullsh*t"
Abstinence, Parts One through Three
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJkGWpsHM6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a62URlxgIfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBnUBq5uRH4 |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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twg wrote: |
Depends on the religion's goals in regards to social control, I figure. |
Right on the money. Anyone who feels religion is anti-sex is only looking at the most popular religions as they are prescribed to the masses through organizations. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Materialistic, hypocritical religionists are among the worst class of people, but part of the real function of religion - from a spiritual point of view - is to gradually transform material lust into what it originally was in pure consciousness: love of God.
This involves regulating sex life through a system of marriage which ultimately results in detachment from sex.
According to religious principles, sex life between a man and woman in marriage for the purpose of having good children can be sanctified by God.
Other forms and purposes of sex life are not sanctifiable and thus entail sinful karmic reactions of varying degrees.
Healthwise, there's physical, mental, and spiritual health.
According to Ayur-Vedic understanding, there are three main underlying causes of disease: uncleanliness, anxiety, and overeating/undereating...
Unrestricted sex with different partners obviously results in many types of infections which basically relate to uncleanliness.
The sex-obsessed mind is also commonly described as "dirty", and there are mental disorders stemming from anxiety due to sex (which also may relate to various eating disorders...)
Spiritually, attachment for material sex enjoyment has to ultimately be given up in order to experience higher transcendental pleasure and liberation from the cycle of birth and death. |
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pest2

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Does religion encourage an unhealthy attitude to sex? |
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Not if you're a sex god like me. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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God is clearly a sick pervert. I mean, he designed penises and vaginas.
My sister used to date a guy who was raised Catholic who could never quite shake off the religion. Every time after they had sex he'd apologise to her and feel very guilty. Not really a turn on. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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All it is is rubbing a wang and a poon together.
I think religions just say that you shouldn't set your mind only to fu**ing because you'll lose sight of other things. Also, if you go throwing it around everywhere, you risk disease and the complications.
Since it's all about the children and raising them right, it's important to care about them without creating complex and confusing situations to f**k up their mind at a young age.
Religions just say to be careful when you f**k. |
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mikowee

Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
God is clearly a sick pervert. I mean, he designed penises and vaginas.
My sister used to date a guy who was raised Catholic who could never quite shake off the religion. Every time after they had sex he'd apologise to her and feel very guilty. Not really a turn on. |
Your sister talks about her sex life with you? That's a line I'd rather not cross with my sister. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Mormonism certainly encourages an unhealthy attittude about sex. Mormons believe that sex outside of marriage is the sin next to murder. They also make a really big deal about self abuse. In this youtube video, the mission president lectures his young mormon elders about the evils of self abuse and pop-ups. He blames the low conversion rate on this problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_kA51u6IW0
What is that big rod that he's holding in his hand? |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
God is clearly a sick pervert. I mean, he designed penises and vaginas.
My sister used to date a guy who was raised Catholic who could never quite shake off the religion. Every time after they had sex he'd apologise to her and feel very guilty. Not really a turn on. |
Sorry about that. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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mikowee wrote: |
RACETRAITOR wrote: |
God is clearly a sick pervert. I mean, he designed penises and vaginas.
My sister used to date a guy who was raised Catholic who could never quite shake off the religion. Every time after they had sex he'd apologise to her and feel very guilty. Not really a turn on. |
Your sister talks about her sex life with you? That's a line I'd rather not cross with my sister. |
It came up several years later. That guy in particular lost his mind and attempted suicide several times in front of my sister. I know a little more about it than necessary. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Kepler wrote: |
Mormonism certainly encourages an unhealthy attittude about sex. Mormons believe that sex outside of marriage is the sin next to murder. They also make a really big deal about self abuse. In this youtube video, the mission president lectures his young mormon elders about the evils of self abuse and pop-ups. He blames the low conversion rate on this problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_kA51u6IW0
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Don't Mormons also think there's something wrong with being totally naked?
Probably the only religions that don't try to control sex are the weirdass ones that Rteacher brings up now and then. Raelians seem extremely healthy when it comes to sex. I'm not sure if Scientologists fill their customers' heads with crap about sex. |
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Billy Pilgrim

Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: |
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Forget about sex, Christianity creates an unhealthy attitude to other people. It is a very dehumanizing way to look at the word, treating everyone as mere lambs of God who have to obey his every command. We are merely beings to be "saved' by some otherworldy figure, not living, thinking, feeling organisms that have the rigth to free will. |
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seoulsister

Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Location: International Network
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
God is clearly a sick pervert. I mean, he designed penises and vaginas.
My sister used to date a guy who was raised Catholic who could never quite shake off the religion. Every time after they had sex he'd apologise to her and feel very guilty. Not really a turn on. |
What do Catholics believe about sex then? ('scuse me for being ignorant) |
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