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catman
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 Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: Bush Setting America Up for War on Iran? |
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Senior American intelligence and defense officials believe that President George W Bush and his inner circle are taking steps to place America on the path to war with Iran, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt.
Pentagon planners have developed a list of up to 2,000 bombing targets in Iran, amid growing fears among serving officers that diplomatic efforts to slow Iran�s nuclear weapons program are doomed to fail.
Pentagon and CIA officers say they believe that the White House has begun a carefully calibrated program of escalation that could lead to a military showdown with Iran.
Now it has emerged that Condoleezza Rice, the secretary of state, who has been pushing for a diplomatic solution, is prepared to settle her differences with Vice-President Dick Cheney and sanction military action.
In a chilling scenario of how war might come, a senior intelligence officer warned that public denunciation of Iranian meddling in Iraq - arming and training militants - would lead to cross border raids on Iranian training camps and bomb factories.
A prime target would be the Fajr base run by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Quds Force in southern Iran, where Western intelligence agencies say armor-piercing projectiles used against British and US troops are manufactured.
Under the theory - which is gaining credence in Washington security circles - US action would provoke a major Iranian response, perhaps in the form of moves to cut off Gulf oil supplies, providing a trigger for air strikes against Iran�s nuclear facilities and even its armed forces.
Senior officials believe Mr Bush�s inner circle has decided he does not want to leave office without first ensuring that Iran is not capable of developing a nuclear weapon.
The intelligence source said: �No one outside that tight circle knows what is going to happen.� But he said that within the CIA �many if not most officials believe that diplomacy is failing� and that �top Pentagon brass believes the same�.
He said: �A strike will probably follow a gradual escalation. Over the next few weeks and months the US will build tensions and evidence around Iranian activities in Iraq.�
Previously, accusations that Mr Bush was set on war with Iran have come almost entirely from his critics.
Many senior operatives within the CIA are highly critical of Mr Bush�s handling of the Iraq war, though they themselves are considered ineffective and unreliable by hardliners close to Mr Cheney.
The vice president is said to advocate the use of bunker-busting tactical nuclear weapons against Iran�s nuclear sites. His allies dispute this, but Mr Cheney is understood to be lobbying for air strikes if sites can be identified where Revolutionary Guard units are training Shia militias.
Recent developments over Iraq appear to fit with the pattern of escalation predicted by Pentagon officials.
Gen David Petraeus, Mr Bush�s senior Iraq commander, denounced the Iranian �proxy war� in Iraq last week as he built support in Washington for the US military surge in Baghdad.
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: Iran's Ahmadinejad Wants Bush Debate, 'Global Referendum' |
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Yep, the neo-con criminal cabal is getting increasingly desperate & nervous.
The veil is lifting on a pack of lies.
Powers that be:
" ... must ... manufacture ... more ... lame ... major distractions ... these are ... not ... war ... war ... war ... "crimes" 
Iran's Ahmadinejad Wants Bush Debate, 'Global Referendum'
TEHRAN (AFP) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday proposed holding a public debate with his US counterpart George W. Bush at the United Nations this month and a "global referendum" to decide who was right.
Ahmadinejad confirmed in an interview with Iranian television he would be visiting Iran's arch enemy the United States for the third time to take part in the General Assembly next week.
"I proposed it last year. I will go to New York. Let's sit down and talk. But not behind closed doors 
"I propose discussing international questions at the UN General Assembly in order to solve them," he added.
"Our aim is to solve global problems," he continued. "He (Bush) gives his position and I give mine. The representatives of 200 countries meet there and they can judge," he said.
Ahmadinejad offered Bush a public debate before he travelled to the United Nations last year, a proposal that was spurned by the White House which said the suggestion was not serious  
In the interview with Iran's international Jam-e Jam Farsi language channel, Ahmadinejad also went one step further by mooting a "global referendum" to see who out of Iran and the United States had the better ideas.
"We will propose our solutions to solve the world questions and they (the Americans) can propose their solutions. We will organise a global referendum and the people can vote," he said.
"The solution that wins the most votes will be applied." |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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More like Aremaddinnerjacket is setting up Iran for a war...  |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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According to the article, clearly setting up the world for high-profile public debate & discussion.
As the record shows, Zionist (we are not Nazis) Neo-cons could care less for reasoned diplomacy.
Hilter's progeny.
Cold-blooded psychopath killers running amuck on the earth ... yay!
War crime tribuals? What are those? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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The Sunday Telegraph has printed bad information and analysis. An Iranian-American War would be extremely unlikely at any time in what remains of W. Bush's presidency. The Joint Chiefs might resign en masse or, an outside possibility, move against the President.
In any case, Igotthisguitar: I see you are placing yourself firmly behind another testable prediction.
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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You see that Arbena-guy on TV calling for the destruction of Israel and the US, then funding weapons to kill Americans in Iraq.
Yeah, Bush is "setting up" Iran.
Iran's gov't will deserve whatever is coming. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| In any case, Igotthisguitar: I see you are placing yourself firmly behind another testable prediction. |
Gee, sounds pretty scientific.
What exactly are you getting at?
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You see that Arbena-guy on TV calling for the destruction of Israel and the US,
then funding weapons to kill Americans in Iraq |
Yo Bass ...
And if Russia were to invade Canada with a great destructive military force,
how would you expect the Yanks to react?
*yawn*
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Iran has been after the US well before the Iraq war. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| In any case, Igotthisguitar: I see you are placing yourself firmly behind another testable prediction. |
Gee, sounds pretty scientific.
What exactly are you getting at?
| bassexpander wrote: |
You see that Arbena-guy on TV calling for the destruction of Israel and the US,
then funding weapons to kill Americans in Iraq |
Yo Bass ...
And if Russia were to invade Canada with a great destructive military force,
how would you expect the Yanks to react?
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I would expect the Yanks as well as Germany and France and the REST OF NATO to honour their military obligations and support Canada. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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And if Russia were to invade Canada with a great destructive military force, how would you expect the Yanks to react?
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What if it were just a minimally destructive force, like say neutron bombs, for example? |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I see some bombs with 444 written on them in Iran's near future... |
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bassexpander
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Talk to Iran
Don't bomb Iran
There is a better solution.
PROJECT THOR
If Iran behaves themselves then they won't have a problem.
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| In any case, Igotthisguitar: I see you are placing yourself firmly behind another testable prediction. |
Gee, sounds pretty scientific.
What exactly are you getting at?
| bassexpander wrote: |
You see that Arbena-guy on TV calling for the destruction of Israel and the US,
then funding weapons to kill Americans in Iraq |
Yo Bass ...
And if Russia were to invade Canada with a great destructive military force,
how would you expect the Yanks to react?
*yawn*
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Anybody got one of those stand down things I could use? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| RobbieRimjob borrowed mine he' probing is anal cavity w/ it...I'll tell him to let you have it when he's through, that is, if it still works. |
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