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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Microchips required for adopted animals Reply with quote

The City of Los Angeles' animal shelters now require all animals adopted from their facilities be given an identification microchip implant.

After several years of debate and study, the Los Angles City Council approved a measure to require that, as of Aug. 1, adopted animals be given a small electronic implant that would identify the owner of the pet. While the program has been discussed for many years, cost considerations for increased staff and computer equipment held up its implementation until now.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=18758
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both our cats have microchip IDs. However, judging from the way they follow my every move and listen attentively to my phone calls, I suspect there is more going on than that. Um, can't say any more, they're looking at the monitor now...
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red dog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great, but then again it's pretty appalling that it took so long to implement a program that's basically standard in animal shelters throughout North America. Better late than never, I guess ...
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adopted animals today, adopted CHILDREN tomorrow Idea
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Yo!Chingo



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is microchip implantation really that bad of a thing?!? I personally would be one of the 1st to sign up for it if I thought that its use was a good one.
There are way toooo many crazies out there in this day and age to overlook the potential safety concerns of not having something like this!
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo!Chingo wrote:
Is microchip implantation really that bad of a thing?!? I personally would be one of the 1st to sign up for it if I thought that its use was a good one.
There are way toooo many crazies out there in this day and age to overlook the potential safety concerns of not having something like this!


Well now dear sir...would you be happy to accept a chip that recorded all your details, transactions, location, movements, employment record, and past history? Something that once implanted would make you traceable at any time, and at the mercy of whichever government was in power?

I think you all know where this is going...If you have that much faith in those in power that you would be first in the qeue to become walking software...and the majority did the same...then soon those that refused to accept it would be seen as outlaws, criminals, denied access to healthcare, finances, unable to buy or sell...
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desultude



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Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's amazing what the fear-state has been able to convince people of. Percentage wise, very few children are kidnapped, and those are generally by a relative (non-custodial parent). But the hype has gotten parents so terrified that they have their children fingerprinted. At least an implanted chip can be removed. Once you relinquish your fingerprints, they don't change- you are, as they say in the States "in the system".

A chip implanted? Ayeesh! I think even Koreans have a better sense of privacy and waryness of government than that!

http://www.smartmobs.com/archive/2003/10/07/chips_to_be_imp.html

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Chips To Be Implanted in Mexican Children?
The Era of Sentient Things
Posted by Howard at 10:25 AM
According to this press release, RFID chips are now available for implanting under the skin of Mexican children. Have these people not heard of unintended consequences? If someone is going to kidnap a child for its organs, as the press release claims, would they have any problem amputating limbs that appear to have metallic lumps under the skin?

About the size of a grain of rice, VeriChip is the world's first subdermal, radio frequency identification (RFID) microchip that can be used in a variety of security, financial, emergency identification and other applications.
The cooperation agreement means that Solusat and the National Foundation will work together on a range of child-safeguard projects in Mexico. With the launch of VeriKid, Mexico becomes the first country in the world to offer VeriChip's new VeriKid system designed to provide a secure emergency identification system for lost, missing and kidnapped children. It is expected that the VeriKid application will soon become available in other countries, including the United States, after its introduction in Mexico.
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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According to this press release, RFID chips are now available for implanting under the skin of Mexican children. Have these people not heard of unintended consequences? If someone is going to kidnap a child for its organs, as the press release claims, would they have any problem amputating limbs that appear to have metallic lumps under the skin?


The forehead will work nicely!





Of course, then it's all downhill from there.

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rapier



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



666 is on every barcode, on every product in the world already.


Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:


Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
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red dog



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Microchipping animals makes it harder for people to abandon them without having to face the consequences. It enables lost animals to be returned to their families instead of staying lost forever. We can debate the pros and cons of microchipping children when pounds have freezers full of dead children no one gave a *beep* about.

What a fucking stupid discussion.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red dog wrote:
Microchipping animals makes it harder for people to abandon them without having to face the consequences. It enables lost animals to be returned to their families instead of staying lost forever. We can debate the pros and cons of microchipping children when pounds have freezers full of dead children no one gave a *beep* about.

What a *beep* stupid discussion.


The potential for this technology to be abused is massive. you want to remain a free man?
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:


The potential for this technology to be abused is massive. you want to remain a free man?

That depends- will I get more soma and soylent green?
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deadman



Joined: 27 May 2006
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
rapier wrote:


The potential for this technology to be abused is massive. you want to remain a free man?

That depends- will I get more soma and soylent green?


Soylent green? It's made of PEO-PLE!!

(from the movie "Soylent Green" - a lot of references to it in the Futurama series)

By the way, Bulsajo, your new avatar is a lot easier on the eyes! Thanks. That last one wasn't a picture of YOU was it?
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it was.
My real name is Karl Pilkington and I have an enormous, perfectly round head.
However did you manage to unmask me?
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red dog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
rapier wrote:


The potential for this technology to be abused is massive. you want to remain a free man?

That depends- will I get more soma and soylent green?


Companion animals really can't be "free" because humans have made them completely dependent on us. I wouldn't get myself spayed because it's unnecessary, but it is absolutely necessary for dogs and cats to prevent more of them from becoming homeless. Mandatory spaying and neutering of companion animals would be a good thing, as far as I'm concerned, if it could be enforced. At the very least, low-cost spay/neuter services should be available to animals from low-income families.

Microchipping adopted animals is another way to make sure those animals stay in good homes and don't end up on the streets again. The technology has been in use for a long time -- and similar policies have been in place in many other animal shelters for a long time -- without anyone making it mandatory for humans.

Sorry for my impatient tone earlier, but I really don't understand why whenever there's a discussion about animal issues on these boards, it always devolves into a complete farce. Doesn't anyone take this seriously? I'm tempted to post a graphic photo to make my point, but I'll resist -- for now.

Here's more about microchipping -- I hope people with companion animals will look into this asap. I think the procedure may be a bit less common in Korea than it is in North America, but it is done here and can save an animal's life if something happens.

http://www.healthypet.com/library_view.aspx?ID=78&sid=1
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