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koreaking
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Location: Omokyo, Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: Why do backpackers/tourists seem to pass on Korea? |
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I have travelled throughout Asia a bit and just curious as to what you guys think about this. I mean, there are tons of packpackers and tourists that go to Japan then China and totally overlook Korea. Is it the history or lack of culture that people dont find interesting and therefore dont come here? Of course comparing Korea to say Thailand is unfair since Thailand is a tourist based country basically. But lets compare just China, Japan and Korea. Of many of the people I have met on my journies, it seems many could care less about coming here for a short visit and the country sometimes doesnt even cross their minds. Most of the foreigners in this country are mostly English teachers working here. I hardly ever see backpackers on the streets like in other Asian countries. Many travellers seem to hit Japan then China while passing Korea by.
Is it the lack of appeal towards Korea? Its strange in a way. I mean, the country has a very long history etc. But then again, there isnt a WHOLE lot to do here if one was to stay a lenthy period of time and it doesnt have the tropical weather that many tourists enjoy
Anyway, just wondering what you guys think/reasons |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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A couple reasons: it's expensive. Significantly more than China.
It's not exactly a tourist destination. Seriously, how much is there to really see in Korea compared to Japan or China? Not much and what there is, is pretty mediocre. Everland is the best amusement park? Jeju island has the best beaches? Bulgulksa is the best temple? Lotte World is the best mall? Kind of a joke in my opinion.
I've had 2 friends come visit over the years and while they were happy to see me I think, they weren't overly impressed with Korea and said they wouldn't come back. You know, garbage on the streets, the overdose of kimchi and such.
It's a decent place to live...just not visit. |
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atomic42

Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Location: Gimhae
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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The risk of fan death is simply too high here for most backpackers. |
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koreaking
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Location: Omokyo, Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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jlb wrote: |
You know, garbage on the streets, the overdose of kimchi and such.
It's a decent place to live...just not visit. |
usually its the opposite with most places. nice for a visit but not to live
anyway, the garbage isnt half as bad as what i saw in Beijing and Shanghai. and the stench of the gabage and stinky tofu made me almost puke. then again, China isnt known for its cleanliness |
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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LACK OF ENGLISH. The serious lack of English would make any backpacker stop and question. You need to have large base of Korean to move around this country. No way a backpacker could come here and be okay with no Korean help.
It is very poor quality with a high price. |
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koreaking
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Location: Omokyo, Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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bellum99 wrote: |
LACK OF ENGLISH. The serious lack of English would make any backpacker stop and question. You need to have large base of Korean to move around this country. No way a backpacker could come here and be okay with no Korean help.
It is very poor quality with a high price. |
I'd have to REALLY disagree there. I mean, out of Japan, China and Korea, I think Korea wants/needs English more. And I have no problem with English say in Seoul. There is a LOT of English everywhere and almost any young person can at least help you out if your lost etc. Their English is good enough to get by. My time in China and Japan was WAY worse for getting around and oredering etc. Geez..one restaurant didnt even know what salt was In some cities in Japan, they dont even have Engish on their subway system maps. To be honest, I think Japan and China dont care about English the way Koreans do. For different reasons. |
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normalcyispasse

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, and why don't those people who travel across the United States stop in Kansas? What's up with that? |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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not much to see (the Japanese destroyed a whole lot of stuff that would have been awesome to see)
it's very far to go to see such a small, homogenous country |
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indytrucks

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: The Shelf
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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koreaking wrote: |
bellum99 wrote: |
LACK OF ENGLISH. The serious lack of English would make any backpacker stop and question. You need to have large base of Korean to move around this country. No way a backpacker could come here and be okay with no Korean help.
It is very poor quality with a high price. |
I'd have to REALLY disagree there. I mean, out of Japan, China and Korea, I think Korea wants/needs English more. And I have no problem with English say in Seoul. There is a LOT of English everywhere and almost any young person can at least help you out if your lost etc. Their English is good enough to get by. My time in China and Japan was WAY worse for getting around and oredering etc. Geez..one restaurant didnt even know what salt was In some cities in Japan, they dont even have Engish on their subway system maps. To be honest, I think Japan and China dont care about English the way Koreans do. For different reasons. |
Exactly. Anyone who complains about lack of English here ain't seen jack. Especially when it comes to driving.
Someone earlier in the thread touched on what I think is a major factor in the lack of 'backpackers' here ... price. Most backpackers fit a certain mould ... some might say frugal. Cheap accomodation here is at a premium these days. Long gone are the times when you could get a halfway decent yeogwan room for 20-25k. The other alternative is minbak/yeoinsuk, but the quality ranges wildly from a flat out bargain to absolutely grotty. Food and transport are relatively cheap still if you stick to mugunghwha trains and bimbimpap for lunch all the time, but that's sure to burn you out after a week or so.
As for lack of things to do/see, I think it depends on what you're after. Korea has a few hidden gems that are vastly underrated. That said, Korea isn't by any stretch of the imagination SE Asia. You're not going to come here for months at a time backpacking all over the place. I couldn't see anyone spending more than 2-3 weeks tops to cover all the major sites and a few farther flung ones. Japan and China, you could easily spend months traveling around (if you had deep pockets). I think that puts off a lot of travelers. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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because like it or not travel is a lot about branding. Korea is a generic no-brand sneaker situated between nike and reebok. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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crazylemongirl wrote: |
because like it or not travel is a lot about branding. Korea is a generic no-brand sneaker situated between nike and reebok. |
between Nike and Asics, to be more apt.
(Chinese factories vs. Japanese company) |
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pest2

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe they pass on Korea because they read this forum about Korea. |
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kiwiliz
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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crazylemongirl wrote: |
because like it or not travel is a lot about branding. Korea is a generic no-brand sneaker situated between nike and reebok. |
She hit the nail on the head here. Korea doesn't or hasn''t branded itself as a backpacker destination. I think maybe it forgets how much backpackers spend. In NZ one year the income from backpackers was actually higher than that from the wealthier tourists because the backpackers spent on things to do.
Korea needs to decide that
a) it wants tourist $$'s
b) it will make it easier for tourists to travel around the country
c) it will open its phone netwoprk up so tourists don't have to get a hire phone when they arrive
d) it will make international Visa cards ATM's more accessible - my city doesn't have any
e) it will promote more tourist activities then just temple visits. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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kiwiliz wrote: |
Korea needs to decide that
b) it will make it easier for tourists to travel around the country |
It's so easy to travel around this country on buses or trains. Amazingly so. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Part of the reason not mentioned yet why Korea has such astoundingly low tourism is the bad reputation it has for eating dog. It could be just stupid Brits who say this, but back home when I told people I was going to live and work in Korea, people grimaced, because the image people have of Korea is of dogs in tiny cages on full view.
Japan is also only #26, which, whilst certainly an improvement on Korea's failure to even register an entry, is not great. China is quite high up there and perhaps a helluva lot of that is in Hong Kong, which rich European and North American travelers view as more palatable because it's a former British colony. The Far East, to most Westerners in my opinion, is seen as strict, humorless and cruel to animals. Buddhists, Japan Manga geeks and hippy Asiaphiles are the minority. |
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