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Fishead soup
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 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: Skunk Hell punk club |
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I went to the Oi festival. It was very retro eighties with a lot of spikey hairstyles and mohawks. The reggae songs between sets was a great idea it mellowed the audience out. It appeared that most of the real hardcore punks were from Japan. No one seemed to be there to cause a fight. At least while I was there.
The punks seeemed pretty well behaved. You can photo them without them asking for money. In Britain in the early eighties I saw a bunch of loudmouthed posers demanding money from a bunch of Japanese tourists.
The Japanese tourists in London in 1984 were the mums and dads of all the punks who play at Shunk Hell. |
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indytrucks
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Skunk Hell punk club |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| The punks seeemed pretty well behaved. You can photo them without them asking for money. |
Interesting. After reading all the stuff about punks in Korea here for the past few months, I was thinking about doing a photo essay about them, and Skunk Hell seemed to me to be the place to start. I wondered what their reaction would be to a very uncool, very non-punk foreigner (although I used to skate in my younger days, many moons ago) waving a camera around.
Something to think about. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Skunk Hell punk club |
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| indytrucks wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| The punks seeemed pretty well behaved. You can photo them without them asking for money. |
Interesting. After reading all the stuff about punks in Korea here for the past few months, I was thinking about doing a photo essay about them, and Skunk Hell seemed to me to be the place to start. I wondered what their reaction would be to a very uncool, very non-punk foreigner (although I used to skate in my younger days, many moons ago) waving a camera around.
Something to think about. |
Just stay away from the mosh pit and I'm sure you'll be fine.
When I was there there were tons of Weagooks with digital camera's filming the event.
I'm sure you can find tons of stuff on youtube. |
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RACETRAITOR
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm guessing we talked at some point then, Fishead_Soup. As far as who's more "hardcore," I'd guess the Koreans are because the Japanese punks probably dress like that at work.
No fights that night as far as I'm aware. Korea is a much less violent place than the US and the UK and punk shows are no exception. If there were ever a fight, it would be stopped very quickly, especially if there's a foreigner causing trouble.
One of the Japanese guys gave GHB to two of the Korean girls, and that led to a big misunderstanding when they both passed out. They took it for fun though, knowing full well what it was.
The Korean punks are generally open to strangers taking pictures, within reason. I do it all the time, but they all know me. If you ever want to give it a try, just send me an e-mail and I'll make you feel welcome.
About half of the pictures I got from that night are up on my site:
http://www.daehanmindecline.com
The drummer of the Patients.
My friend Verv and his Chinese girlfriend.
Rux
Disclapties, from Japan
Sadly a little blurred.
Gukdo.
Shorty Cat.
Korean skinhead.
The girl looking at me is only 12.
The lead singer of the Explode goes down.
The lead singer of Shorty Cat worked the door.
Tabloid Play was the last band.
Last picture I took of the evening.
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indytrucks
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| If you ever want to give it a try, just send me an e-mail and I'll make you feel welcome. |
I might just do that sometime soon. The project I have in mind would be over the course of weeks rather than a one off Saturday or something. I'll keep you posted by PM. Appreciate it. Some good pics of your own, btw. |
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Fishead soup
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| G.B.H. the band or the British charge for aggravated assault? |
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RACETRAITOR
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| G.B.H. the band or the British charge for aggravated assault? |
As far as I can tell GBH and GHB are the same thing. In this case I'm talking about gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid, which is sometimes used as a date rape drug and sometimes used as a club drug called "liquid ecstasy."
So if a Japanese guy is ever offering you some kind of drug and you don't know what it is, don't be dumb. |
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reactionary
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| As far as who's more "hardcore," I'd guess the Koreans are because the Japanese punks probably dress like that at work. |
I don't understand that statement. If koreans only play dress up on Sat night, that isn't too impressive to me. |
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RACETRAITOR
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| As far as who's more "hardcore," I'd guess the Koreans are because the Japanese punks probably dress like that at work. |
I don't understand that statement. If koreans only play dress up on Sat night, that isn't too impressive to me. |
No, the Koreans all live the live all the time. You can't have red hair, or tattoos, and have a 9-to-5 job on the weekdays. Basically almost none of them have a future aside from drinking and going to shows. If there's anything more punk than destroying your future, I don't know what it is. In Japan you can have a nine-foot mohawk and walk around in leather gear on a leash and nobody will mind. I'm doubtful whether any of them are rebelling from anything. |
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wo buxihuan hanguoren
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Be careful with Skunk Hell though. I went there ages ago with a friend, paid the two ladies at the door (10 000 I think), then we immediately left to go across the road to buy drinks (for some reason they don't sell drinks there and you have to bring your own in), we bought our drinks, returned, and the band was leaving and we were told the show is over.
My friend and I were seriously pissed off, complained to the two ladies working the counter, and they said we have to talk to Paul about it.
Anyway, Paul was cool about it, said we can't get our money back, but he did give me his email address (which I promptly lost), and said that the next time he would see if he could try and get us in for free.
Still though, those two ladies at the counter should have known better. I haven't been back inside that place since then. Make sure you ask if it is the last band playing when you go there because that place shuts down really early sometimes. |
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reactionary
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Japan has a youth culture but I don't think they are destroying their lives any less (if either japanese or koreans are in fact doing that at all). I doubt you can get a job as a "salaryman" covered in tats and pierced all over.
I dont know the korean punks well. if they are like punks in america (or even in japan) their fashion statement can often be concealed easily enough after college. and if its just tats, thats what long sleeves are for. anyway, a lot of em, the lead singer of rux, chulhwan from suck stuff...they could pass for wholesome korean boys if they tried. ihaven't seen any crazy face tats or anything |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| reactionary wrote: |
Japan has a youth culture but I don't think they are destroying their lives any less (if either japanese or koreans are in fact doing that at all). I doubt you can get a job as a "salaryman" covered in tats and pierced all over.
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I'm pretty certain you can. Quite a few of those guys have successful careers.
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I dont know the korean punks well. if they are like punks in america (or even in japan) their fashion statement can often be concealed easily enough after college.
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The problem is that they don't go to college, and there are quite a few high school dropouts as well.
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and if its just tats, thats what long sleeves are for. anyway, a lot of em, the lead singer of rux, chulhwan from suck stuff...they could pass for wholesome korean boys if they tried. ihaven't seen any crazy face tats or anything |
Chulhwan certainly could, and he's actually a Christian, but I've seen Jonghee try to go straight for court appearances, and he could never pull it off for long.
By the way, one of the members of one of the bands tonight is strongly considering sitting in jail for two years because he doesn't want to go through the military.
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RACETRAITOR
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| wo buxihuan hanguoren wrote: |
Be careful with Skunk Hell though. I went there ages ago with a friend, paid the two ladies at the door (10 000 I think), then we immediately left to go across the road to buy drinks (for some reason they don't sell drinks there and you have to bring your own in), we bought our drinks, returned, and the band was leaving and we were told the show is over.
My friend and I were seriously pissed off, complained to the two ladies working the counter, and they said we have to talk to Paul about it.
Anyway, Paul was cool about it, said we can't get our money back, but he did give me his email address (which I promptly lost), and said that the next time he would see if he could try and get us in for free.
Still though, those two ladies at the counter should have known better. I haven't been back inside that place since then. Make sure you ask if it is the last band playing when you go there because that place shuts down really early sometimes. |
The only advice I can give is see what time the show starts before you go in. Show times are usually 7:30 at the latest. It gets a lot of foreigners. Ironically my first show I was let in for free because the last band was already playing. They probably didn't return the money because these days all the clubs are feeling the pinch. If you want to get in contact with Paul I can give you his e-mail address, but he won't be around much longer.
Skunk doesn't serve liquor because the district office refuses to give them a liquor licence. Officially it's because there's no emergency exit, but it's obvious they don't want a punk club there. |
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Fishead soup
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| As far as who's more "hardcore," I'd guess the Koreans are because the Japanese punks probably dress like that at work. |
I don't understand that statement. If koreans only play dress up on Sat night, that isn't too impressive to me. |
No, the Koreans all live the live all the time. You can't have red hair, or tattoos, and have a 9-to-5 job on the weekdays. Basically almost none of them have a future aside from drinking and going to shows. If there's anything more punk than destroying your future, I don't know what it is. In Japan you can have a nine-foot mohawk and walk around in leather gear on a leash and nobody will mind. I'm doubtful whether any of them are rebelling from anything. |
How can they do that without welfare. Korea has no social welfare program for single employable people. From what I remember about the scene in Canada was most of the punks were on welfare. In Britain they call it the Dole.
Do they all live at home and drive scooters for Chinese Restaurants |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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How can they do that without welfare. Korea has no social welfare program for single employable people. From what I remember about the scene in Canada was most of the punks were on welfare. In Britain they call it the Dole.
Do they all live at home and drive scooters for Chinese Restaurants |
Actually in Edmonton quite a large amount of the punks were university students/graduates and had very specific career goals in mind.
Quite a few Korean punks here are unemployed and live off their parents. I know one skinhead with a big neck tattoo who works as a sushi chef. Ironically one of the skinheads started working at a pizza place, and they forced him to grow his hair out, so he could wear a hairnet I guess. I know the lead singer of Couch was a welder before he was put in jail, so I assume he's still in that trade. Aside from them, there's a number of struggling artists. There are quite a few who rely on the punk scene for an income, like the guys who own clubs, manage stores, or do tattoos. |
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