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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: Ron Paul and the MiB vote |
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Is Ron paul basically cornering the constituency of paranoid schizos who havent taken their meds? Seems to me like his entire platform is a compilation of Fox Moulder quotes with a dash of Mel Gibson in "Conspiracy Theory" thrown in for good measure. Is Paul trying to get the MiB vote, i.e. "the government is a boogeyman who is behind everything bad happening in my life, and aliens, too" ?
Abybody else see the ad in the KH by the Ron Paul supporter group? Whats the agenda for that meeting anyway? Seems like its gotta be nuttier than IGTG after forgetting to take his antipsychotic meds. Oh to be the nurse in the rubber room, er, I mean the fly on the wall when that psycho fest went down. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Jinju, you do realize his main focus is to try to be true to the Constitution. His other themes:
get rid of the Federal Reserve (basically what the U.S. had before 1970 and the Gold Standard). Inflation since 1970 in the U.S. has been more than for the 200 years prior to it, if I remember correctly.
get rid of entitlements that are bankrupting America. Seems like spending money you have, and not making promises you can't keep, isn't really a whacked concept.
stop meddling in the affairs of other nations, and just trade with them, do business with them, and spread your message in a positive way, not by way of guns. Looking at America's relationship with Vietnam today vs. 30 years ago is a good example.
Like I've said, it's hard to argue with the logic of the man. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Awwww ... no need to pay him any mind Blasphemer.
Jinju's just a man who thinks he's a loner ...  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
Jinju, you do realize his main focus is to try to be true to the Constitution. His other themes:
get rid of the Federal Reserve (basically what the U.S. had before 1970 and the Gold Standard). Inflation since 1970 in the U.S. has been more than for the 200 years prior to it, if I remember correctly.
get rid of entitlements that are bankrupting America. Seems like spending money you have, and not making promises you can't keep, isn't really a whacked concept.
stop meddling in the affairs of other nations, and just trade with them, do business with them, and spread your message in a positive way, not by way of guns. Looking at America's relationship with Vietnam today vs. 30 years ago is a good example.
Like I've said, it's hard to argue with the logic of the man. |
The US is a lot richer and stronger than it was in 1970.
The constitution is a great document but it is not sacred or divine .
Remember slavery was in the constitution.
It is not medaling in the affairs of other nations to protect US interests.
Case and point
The US would have been crazy to allow Saddam to become powerful and keep Kuwait during the first gulf war.I if Saddam had been allowed to Kuwait then he would have had a lot more ability to effect the US economy. Saddam had no right to Kuwait and the US didn't have to let him have it.
The keeping out of world affairs didn't keep the US safe during the WW II and it didn't keep the US safe during the cold war.
The Soviet Union if the US didn't push back would have won the cold war.
Al Qaeda and the Khomenists fight to force the US out of the mideast but it doesn't stop there. Why ought the US give to them?
If the US trades with or has diplomatic relations with countries they don't like or votes at the UN in ways they don't like then they will go after the US either with terror or with oil . Why ought the US allow them to get into the position where they can have power over the US. Why ought the US give in to them? Cause they will blow stuff up if the US gets in their way?
And since Ron Paul refuses to support alternative energy or gas taxes he leaves the US at the mercy of Al Qaeda , Iran and Chevez more than any other candidate.
Al Qaeda fights for the Caliphate and unless the US gives into their demands they will keep attacking .For the record since Al Qaeda blames the US for stuff the US could not possiblly have anything to do with like supporting Russia in Chechnya and China's persecution of muslims there is nothing the US can do against Al Qaeda except invest in alternative energy and destroy them.
The US doesn't have do something about entitlements , most everything else Ron Paul says is stupid. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| The MiB vote? What is that? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Birdman Bryant is one Ron Paul supporter who lends credibility to the idea that the Paul camp is full of fringe characters.
http://tinyurl.com/2z5b6n (Girl Of The Day is not worksafe)
Then again, Andrew Sullivan, who is well within the mainstream of American political thought, is also sympathetic to Paul.
http://tinyurl.com/39atkl
I get the impression that Ron Paul is attracting a lot of support from disgruntled types accross the political spectrum, many of whom would otherwise be at odds with each other, and who are all hanging their own issues and obsessions onto his candidacy. He's sort of like a political Rorsharch test. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
The US doesn't have do something about entitlements , most everything else Ron Paul says is stupid. |
Wrong. The big three entitlements, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, constitute just under 10% of America's current GDP. By 2050 the programs are projected to cost America 20% of its GDP. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The big three entitlements, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, constitute just under 10% of America's current GDP. By 2050 the programs are projected to cost America 20% of its GDP. |
Fund them with money they save from gutting the military spending that is BOUND to happen.
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| Like I've said, it's hard to argue with the logic of the man. |
I like about half of his ideas. I like his stance on industry taxation but not so big a fan on cutting of the aforementioned "big three" entitlements.
I also have a gigantic problem with the idea that industry can be trusted to regulate itself in such a way that is safe (present AND FUTURE!!!) for citizens and the environment. If the American public (though they are not the only ones who exhibit this behaviour) weren't so apathetic, perhaps there could be a chance that it MAY work. But as it stands, a self regulating economy sounds like trouble to me. |
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