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Rabindranath Tagore, Walt Whitman, Michelangelo Buonarroti

 
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arjuna



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Rabindranath Tagore, Walt Whitman, Michelangelo Buonarroti Reply with quote

Thought I'd share this with y'all. I am saddened to recognize that this kind of sentiment would most likely be dismissed today as "a nice idea." - Arjuna

We have come to this world to accept it, not merely to know it. We may become powerful by knowledge, but we attain fullness by sympathy. The highest education is that which does not merely give us information but makes our life in harmony with all existence. But we find that this education of sympathy is not only systematically ignored in schools, but it is severely repressed. From our very childhood habits are formed and knowledge is imparted in such a manner that our life is weaned away from nature and our mind and the world are set in opposition from the beginning of our days. Thus the greatest of educations for which we came prepared is neglected, and we are made to lose our world to find a bagful of information instead. We rob the child of his earth to teach him geography, of language to teach him grammar. His hunger is for the Epic, but he is supplied with chronicles of facts and dates...Child-nature protests against such calamity with all its power of suffering, subdued at last into silence by punishment.

(Rabindranath Tagore, Personality,1917: 116-17)


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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: Rabindranath Tagore on Education Reply with quote

Targore wrote:

We have come to this world to accept it, not merely to know it. We may become powerful by knowledge, but we attain fullness by sympathy. The highest education is that which does not merely give us information but makes our life in harmony with all existence. But we find that this education of sympathy is not only systematically ignored in schools, but it is severely repressed. From our very childhood habits are formed and knowledge is imparted in such a manner that our life is weaned away from nature and our mind and the world are set in opposition from the beginning of our days. Thus the greatest of educations for which we came prepared is neglected, and we are made to lose our world to find a bagful of information instead. We rob the child of his earth to teach him geography, of language to teach him grammar. His hunger is for the Epic, but he is supplied with chronicles of facts and dates...Child-nature protests against such calamity with all its power of suffering, subdued at last into silence by punishment.

(Rabindranath Tagore, Personality,1917: 116-17)


It's true, it is a nice idea, and I will be the first to dismiss it.

I think that the state Tagore is talking about is not teachable. I think you can experience it, but I don't believe you can ever replicate it in a classroom. I think the only way to attain wisdom is through life experience. Tagore does have a point, in that the goals of every education system I have been a part of have run counter to attaining the state he is talking about.
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arjuna



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Rabindranath Tagore on Education Reply with quote

Paji eh Wong wrote:
I think that the state Tagore is talking about is not teachable. I think you can experience it, but I don't believe you can ever replicate it in a classroom.


He wasn't talking about teaching it but creating an environment in which it can happen.


More later....
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arjuna



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Gitanjali:


Mind Without Fear

Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high;
Where knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken up
into fragments by narrow domestic walls;
Where words come out from the depth of truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection;
Where the clear stream of reason
has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action---
Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake.




Little Flute

Thou hast made me endless, such is thy pleasure. This frail
vessel thou emptiest again and again, and fillest it ever with fresh life.
This little flute of a reed thou hast carried over hills and dales,
and hast breathed through it melodies eternally new.
At the immortal touch of thy hands my little heart loses its limits in
joy and gives birth to utterance ineffable.
Thy infinite gifts come to me only on these very small hands of mine.
Ages pass, and still thou pourest, and still there is room to fill.
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arjuna



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote




I Am Restless

I am restless. I am athirst for far-away things.
My soul goes out in a longing to touch the skirt of the dim distance.
O Great Beyond, O the keen call of thy flute!
I forget, I ever forget, that I have no wings to fly, that I am bound in this spot evermore.

I am eager and wakeful, I am a stranger in a strange land.
Thy breath comes to me whispering an impossible hope.
Thy tongue is known to my heart as its very own.
O Far-to-seek, O the keen call of thy flute!
I forget, I ever forget, that I know not the way, that I have not the winged horse.

I am listless, I am a wanderer in my heart.
In the sunny haze of the languid hours, what vast vision of thine takes shape in the blue of the sky!
O Farthest end, O the keen call of thy flute!
I forget, I ever forget, that the gates are shut everywhere in the house where I dwell alone!
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arjuna



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote




Darest Thou Now O Soul

Darest thou now O soul,
Walk out with me toward the unknown region,
Where neither ground is for the feet nor any path to follow?

No map there, nor guide,
Nor voice sounding, nor touch of human hand,
Nor face with blooming flesh, nor lips, nor eyes, are in that land.

I know it not O soul,
Nor dost thou, all is a blank before us,
All waits undream'd of in that region, that inaccessible land.

Till when the ties loosen,
All but the ties eternal, Time and Space,
Nor darkness, gravitation, sense, nor any bounds bounding us.

Then we burst forth, we float,
In Time and Space O soul, prepared for them,
Equal, equipt at last, (O joy! O fruit of all!) them to fulfil O soul.
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arjuna



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote









He Who Ordained

He who ordained, when first the world began,
Time, that was not before creation�s hour,
Divided it, and gave the sun�s high power
To rule the one, the moon the other:
Thence fate and changeful chance and fortune�s ban
Did in one moment down on mortals show�r
Dividing them, and took the sun�s high power
And left the moon darkened alone:
To me they portioned darkness for a dower;
Dark hath my lot been since I was a man.
Myself am ever mine own counterfeit;
And as the night grows still more dim and dun,
So still more misdoing must I rue:
Meanwhile this solace to my soul is sweet,
That my black night doth make more clear the sun
Which at your birth was given to wait on you.




When Divine Art

When divine Art conceives a form or face,
She bids the craftsman for his first essay
To shape a simple model in mere clay:
This is the earliest birth of Art�s embrace.
From the live marble in its own space,
His mallet brings into the light of day
A thing so beautiful that who can say
When time shall conquer that immortal grace?
Thus my own model I was born to be
The model of the nobler human self,
Whereto schooled by your pity, lady,
I shall grow each overplus, each deficiency
You will make good. What penance then is due
For my fierce heat, chastened and taught by you?



Michelangelo Buonarroti (1475-1564)
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